Tuesday, March 3, 2009

Guest Blogger Responds to Pechanga's Disenrollment Challenge: Part 3

OP: The third installment of our cousin, 'aamokat's takedown of the Pechanga tribal members response in our comments. We believe this commenter is part of the Masiel Crime Family of Pechanga and not the well known speaker at general membership meetings.

Pechanga Member: Besides, the accusers cannot offer any factual examples of such violations. Further, the accusations boil down to angry views of this or that process, and slanted opinions of this or that rule."

WITHOUT FAIR AND IMPARTIAL HEARINGS AND WITHOUT ALL OF THE DISENROLLMENT PROCEDURES LAWFULLY FOLLOWED, THEN WHAT OUR ANONYMOUS CRITIC CONSIDERS A FOREGONE CONCLUSION HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN
AND OUR DISENROLLMENT IS NULL AND VOID.

I WILL CITE AN EXAMPLE OF THE VERY RIGHTS VIOLATIONS THAT OUR CRITIC CLAIMS DON'T EXIST.

IN 2002 THE TRIBE VOTED IN NEW MEMBERS TO THE ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE. UPON TAKING OFFICE THE NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, INCLUDING PEOPLE FROM THE MANUELA MIRANDA AND HUNTER FAMILIES, FOUND EVIDENCE OF DERELICTION OF DUTY ON THE PART OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. OP: Mary Bear McGee was the head of the enrollment committee. She was later kicked out for violating the rules of confidentiality. Frances Miranda, Ihrene "I stole from the tribe" Scearse and Ruth "I spawn criminals" Masiel were members.

THE WRONGDOINGS OF THE COMMITTEE INCLUDED NOT ENROLLING PEOPLE WHO MET THE BAND'S MEMBERSHIP REQUIRMENTS WHO WERE DIRECT DESCENDANTS OF LEGALLY ENROLLED TRIBAL MEMBERS. OP: And part of the Tribe's Constitution and Bylaws"

THE NEW ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS INFORMED THE TRIBAL COUNCIL OF WHAT THEY HAD FOUND BUT TO THIS DAY I DON'T KNOW IF THE ALLEGATIONS WERE EVER FOLLOWED UP ON.

THE ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO HAD THEIR ACTIONS QUESTIONED THEN FILED DISENROLLMENT PAPERS AGAINST THE NEW ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS, WHICH CAN CLEARLY BE SEEN AS PAYBACK FOR THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WERE MADE.

THE MEMBERS OF THE M. MIRANDA AND HUNTER FAMILIES THEN REQUESTED THAT THOSE ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING HAD BEEN MADE AGAINST NOT BE ALLOWED TO RULE ON THEIR DISENROLLMENT CASES DUE TO CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND BIAS.

ALSO, PEOPLE WHO TURNED IN INFORMATON CHALLENGING THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE M. MIRANDAS AND HUNTERS INCLUDED SONS, DAUGHTERS, NIECES, AND NEPHEWS OF THE ENROLLMENT COMMITEE MEMBERS WHO HAD BEEN ASKED TO STEP ASIDE FROM RULING ON THE DISENROLLEES CASES, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF BIAS AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

SO EFFECTIVELY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO CLAIMED THE DISENROLLEES WERE NOT TRUE PECHANGA PEOPLE WERE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED THEM OUT OF THE TRIBE.

THE FAIR THING WOULD HAVE BEEN FOR TRIBAL MEMBERS WHO HAD NO BIAS OR CONFLICT OF INTEREST RULE ON THE DISENROLLEES CASES BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AS THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN QUESTION WERE ALLOWED TO RULE ON THE DISENROLEES CASES.

PREDICTABLY THE DISENROLLED WERE KICKED OUT OF THE TRIBE BY ONLY A ONE VOTE MAJORITY OF THE ENROLLMENT COMMTTEE (THERE WERE THREE BIASED COMMITTEE MEMBERS) AND THEIR APPEAL TO THE TRIBAL COUNCIL WAS TURNED DOWN BY ONLY ONE VOTE.

NOT SURPISING THAT ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN IS THE SON OF ONE ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE MEMBER AND THE NEPHEW OF ANOTHER.

Again, Anonymous of Feb. 26, 2009, 2:38 PM, don't you support your own constitution against malice or prejudice of individual tribal members.

95 comments:

Anonymous said...

O.P., well it could be the grand potato himself, a name coined by one of our regular posters but who knows?

Mr. Potato Head, the blabber mouth, was the reason for the five minute rule on speaking at general membership meetings in which members are only allowed to speak for five minutes at a time.

But whoever our crtic is, he or she is wrong.

Sorry to get off of topic for a minute.

Anonymous said...

Below is a post that was on another thread that is relevant to the topic here:

Pechanga Silver Feather said...
What is absurd about our disenrollment is that the following people were some of the people who signed my congratulations letter welcoming me to the Pechanga tribe: Francis Miranda, Raymond Basquez, Ruth Masiel, and Vincent Ibanez.

The letter came with my enrollment card, which was signed by Vincent Ibanez, the enrollment committee chairman.

I am sure that my enrollment approval in my enrollment file was also signed by those people and that they voted in favor of enrolling me.

Why bring this up at this time?

I do so because years later Vincent Ibanez sent a letter to the enrollment committee from prison saying my family were not Pechanga people as did Raymond Basquez, although in his case it was not sent from prison.

Plus in 2006 Francis Miranda and Ruth Masiel, still on the enrollment committee, voted to kick me out of the tribe.

So the same people who voted to kick me out of the tribe and/or who submitted so called evidence in 2006 against my tribal membership had read my family history years before and they had approved my membership.



The information that supported my membership was good enough to satisfy them before so why isn't good enough now?

February 28, 2009 2:00 PM

'AAMOKAT: SO SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED THOSE OF US WHO BECAME TRIBAL MEMBERS DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT BETWEEN 1980 TO 1996 VOTED US, THE DISENROLLED, OUT OF THE TRIBE OR SUMBMITTED EVIDENCE AGAINST OUR TRIBAL MEMBERSHIP IN 2004 OR 2006.

BY THE WAY, RUTH MASIEL AND FRANCIS MIRANDA WERE TWO OF ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE MEMBERS WE ASKED THE COMMITTEE AND THE TRIBAL COUNCIL TO STEP ASIDE FROM RULING ON OUR DISNEOLLMENT CASES.

HUM, WHAT CHANGED, THE TRIBE GOT THE CASINO?

Luiseno said...

It is interesting to note that these selfsame people gave statements that "they have NEVER recognized the Hunters as Pechanga". So approval of Hunter family members for membership, welcoming them to the Tribe as members was done while they ...... ACK..... My mind can't wrap itself around this one.

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