UPDATE II: I've heard back from Rocha's assistant and he said: " I forwarded your link to Victor in case he wanted post it. He didn't." I also heard back from Rocha and he said he didn't think my site was a legitimate news source. Luckily for those of us that have been harmed by corrupt tribal councils, including the one led by Rocha's cousin Mark Macarro, the Feds do, we are regularly visited by the House, the Senate, The Office of the POTUS, BIA, Dept. of Justice and Dept. of Interior.
Pechanga Tribal Chairman Mark Macarro came under fire at the recent General Membership meeting of the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians in Temecula, CA.
Macarro, who is well known in Indian Country for presiding over the disenrollment and genocide of 25% of his tribe, was the subject of a recall attempt by a group known as the CPP (Concerned Pechanga People). This group allied themselves previously with the diminutive chairman in eliminated two large voting blocs from the Manuela Miranda and Paulina Hunter descendents.
Miranda was a descendent of Pablo Apis, on whose land grant the Pechanga Resort & Casino is on, and Paulina Hunter is an Original Pechanga Person, who received an allotment on the reservation as a tribal person.
The CPP group, this time fronted by: Raymond Basquez Sr., Ed Burbee, Gloria Wright & convicted child molester Vince Ibanez. At a meeting that was designed to elect new PDC (Pechanga Development Corporation) leaders, the CPP presented a petition recalling Pechanga Chairman Mark Macarro for nepotism in hiring his wife Holly Cook Macarro as the tribe's lobbyist.
Holly Cook Macarro is a principal in IETAN Consulting, but was formerly employed by the tribes's then lobbying firm, Holland & Knight.
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Macarro presented paperwork at the meeting that showed that the tribe had approved Holly as a lobbyist while at Holland and Knight in 2002. This was prior their marriage, we believe, and it was Holland & Knight that was chosen, not Holly. Was the switch to IETAN Consulting ever brought before the tribe?
There was a vote on the validity of the recall petition and the tribe voted down the petition as invalid. This is one time that Macarro, I'm sure will follow the will of the tribe. (/snark) Macarro had previously overturned the will of the people in the Hunter disenrollment.
The die is cast, however and there is a new Macarro Enemies List. Macarro now knows who is against him. It might be a good idea for local citizens to stay away from Pechanga, exercising moral outrage at what Pechanga has become.
MR. MACARRO, there are 250 possible votes for your survival out here, simply re-visit your unlawful overruling of the people and reinstate the Hunters and Manuelas. And while you are at it, undo the unconstitutional moratorium, I'm sure 100 of the Tosobols would vote in your favor. It would have the added feature of reducing your enemies income.....hmm.
Please read the links to get more of the story.
100 comments:
What is this ? some of us don,t understand, is this what happened in 2006?
Hmmm the scoudrels are turing on each other is that any big surprise?
I know some people think we are making a bigger deal out of what happened to us by comparing the people who violated our rights to Hitler and Nazi Germany and while the regime at Pechanga is nowhere near as evil as what happened in Germmany in the 1930's and 1940's, wrong is still wrong even if to a lessor degree.
Regarding Hitler and the Nazis, if they and the Axis powers had won World War 2 would it have been any surprise if Hitler and the Germans would have turned on Italy and Mussolini and Japan and Togo next?
That is what appears to be happening at Pechanga.
One more thing, does the CPP have any concept of tribal law?
Because if they brought this recall petition at a PDC meeting, it isn't the proper forum to do so as it would have to be done at a General Memberhip meeting and I believe it would have to be at a single subject special meeting.
So even if the petition was justified, then it still wouldn't be legal but since when has that stopped them from doing something before?
Anonymous said...
"What is this ? some of us don,t understand, is this what happened in 2006?"
If you are referring to our, the Hunters disenrollment, no that is not what happened as the tribe had voted to end disenrollment as a part of tribal law and to stop our disenrollment in 2005 but the tribal council allowed the enrollment committee to go forward against us in 2006 in spite of the new law.
Reportedly, this was a general meeting with PDC elections, NOT a PDC meeting.
Nice to show that Gloria Wright is in bed with a child molester. Gloria, do you let him babysit your grandkids?
I am posting shorter posts as I think it will make it more likely for people to read what I am saying even if there are more of them.
You better believe the CPP isn't through with Macarro as once someone is on their hit list they keep at it until they get what they want.
As seen by the situtation in 2005 after I thought our disenrollment was defeated and I went to Norman Pico Sr. and I spoke to him about helping me draft a petition to end the moratorium.
His response was that even though he was against the moratorium, he said, "we have to stop the disenrollments first and then take on the moratorium because they are going to come after you (the Hunters) again and they aren't going to stop coming after you."
You know he was right because if we had stopped our disenrollment, we may very well have had to votes to end the moratorium then.
oh CPP, Corrupt Pechanga People, what a wicked mess you have created. Very soon your house of cards will fall. Some big things are happening and we will see some changes and justice in Indian Country very soon.
Jenny, Gloria, Ed, Raymond.
I said, "You know he was right because if we had stopped our disenrollment, we may very well have had to votes to end the moratorium then."
Well we did stop our disenrollment but the rouge elements in the tribe ignored the wishes of the people and Macarro helped them.
I bet he wishes he hadn't done that as now they are after him.
My question is, will Macarro go after them first? The recall petition failed, so Macarro still has the support of the tribe. The CCP may be pushing Macarro into a position where he has to protect himself.
Thats what we are asking did this petition just occur or are you talking about years ago?
It is time for the CPP to notify the NIGC, Department of Justice, FBI, and the IRS.
Look into their past tax returns and "claimed earnings".
The Macarros, including John, and Ietan go back aways. This web stretches to the White House itself.
Nobody has ever tried to recall Macarro before so it is current.
Ironic that before our disenrollment the CPP accused us of trying to overthrow the tribal government by recalling the tribal council which was never in our plans even though we had ample reason to do so and now they are trying to recall Macarro.
I don't recall reading this on Victor Rocha's site, or the Press Enterprise.
A recall of the leader of one of the richest tribes in CA? Nope, not news.
call them!
I heard that Macarro said the tribe okayed Holly in 2002. But that was way before she was his wife. Didn't they get married in 2004? Didn't Burbee say something about not getting invited to the wedding?
The tribe wasn't informed of the change from Holland and Knight? Why leave a firm that was so successful for Pechanga?
MONEY for Holly and Mark
What he was to be recalled because of this holly thing?
??????
and they had a vote at the meeting?
your not making sense?
The public will not believe or understand what your saying?
1. A recall petition was presented. Accusing Mark of nepotism, with Holly as a lobbyist.
2. The recall was voted as invalid after Macarro convinced people that we as a tribe voted for HOLLY as a lobbyist, when we voted for Holland and Knight.
I understood that...
The "Holly" thing made sure that Pechanga Money was used to pay the wife of a Pechanga Council member.
Now, we know that Pechanga paid IETAN well over $200,000 per year for the past 3 years.
Wonder if that's all Ietan gets or do they have another outlet that brings money to them?
Masiel always wolf in waiting.
And Masiel may be better than Macarro.
[Quote]Didn't they get married in 2004? Didn't Burbee say something about not getting invited to the wedding?[Quote]
Yeah. Ed did mention that, and do remember the look of hate MM gave him?
Do you think anyone except his family will be at his funeral. I'd like to show up there and cheer.
Macarro takes per capita and takes a huge salary which used to be $95,000 a year. Has the tribe authorized a raise? Then he changes the tribes lobbyist. TO HIS wife's firm at a quarter million a year. Did the tribe authorize the change? Follow the MONEY!
In 2010 Pechanga paid $670,000 to Akin Gump, a large law firm, and $200,000 to Ietan a Consulting firm with ties to Akin Gump for lobbying services.
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?year=2010&lname=Pechanga+Band+of+Luiseno+Mission+Indians&id=
Holly is a Partner in Ietan and Ietan has an ongoing business relationship with Aken Gump. Clients of Ietan are as follows:
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/firmsum.php?lname=Ietan+Consulting&year=2010
The appearance is that Aken Gump was steered a $670,000 lobbying job in exchange for a kickback to the Macarros paid to Holly through Ietan. Mark, Holly and Aken Gump need to explain this transaction because it has the appearance of illegal bribery.
WTF! You thief holly! Gold digger!and Mark.
MacArro, Holly Cook,yes it does list her I saw it.(partner).200,000in her pocket.
Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians
Lobbying 1998-2004: $1,080,000
Lobbying 2004: $240,000
I can't believe you all are arguing over the details, who cares. She's a lobbyist and the tribe has gotten everything they've wanted from the government in the last 5 years so I guess she's earning her money.
The real point of this should be it seems that burbee and basquez are going after macarro. I wonder who will win and where things will go from here.
macarro and masiiel will destroy the basquez and burbee.
"macarro and masiiel will destroy the basquez and burbee."
Does that mean that one of the Masiels, probably Andy, is siding with Macarro against his uncle Raymond Basquez?
Interesting.
YOU SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF LOST SHEEP I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD SIDE WITH BASQUES AND THE BURBEE TIME FOR A CHANGE GET RID OF MARK AND HIS WIFE WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE THEY HAVE UP THEIR SLEEVES
You will see ,mark has become powerful!
Mark is powerful, because he eliminated votes for rightful members.
Imagine if the Republicans eliminated the liberal wing of the Democrats... they'd have their way.
Let me tell you this Mark Macarro, you corrupt B.....D, There are 250 possible votes out there who should NOT ever vote for you.
You have created a legacy of corruption and destruction thru your shameful actions as the Chairman of the Pechanga Tribe.
YOU, Macarro and all your corrupt accociates, John Macarro[your Brother] the Masiel Crime Family, Russel Butch Murphy,Raymond Basquez,Ed Burbee,Irehne Searce,Francis Miranda should NEVER be elected to ANY more poitions in that Tribe.
ALL OF YOU HAVE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE
LET'S CALL AN ANTHROPOLOGYST AND LET HIM PROVE YOUR LINEAGE.
You requested that from the Hunters
and you pushed out the Apis with your lies snd deceit and hateful
accusations.
You gotta ask yourself...
When should I stop????
When I am in PPRISON
or when I have enough money to go away.
I think, JUST GO AWAY.
Mark and holly are more powerful then Obama and his wife ,you will see!
yeh! you are right OBAMA will let this man MARK MACCARO Take over the world at the Washington native american meeting he talkS but mm will not listen he and his cohorts have the agenda of DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMECULA INDIANS AIRRO WHAT ABOUT SUBMITING THE UN LISTENING VIDEO TAPES TO ANYONE IN CHARGE OF THIS PRESS COVERAGE CALL THE DOJ
what was the outcome of the election?
what election?
Mark declared the petition to remove him from office as invalided. So there was no election.
Creeper said
"YOU, Macarro and all your corrupt accociates, John Macarro[your Brother] the Masiel Crime Family, Russel Butch Murphy,Raymond Basquez,Ed Burbee,Irehne Searce,Francis Miranda should NEVER be elected to ANY more poitions in that Tribe"
I agree with you, but you forgot that those who are just as guilty like those who did nothing because they knew that their money was more important than integrity, or they were afraid of reprisals.
I agree with White Buffalo but let’s not just limit the focus on the tribal leaders: They are the little pigs at the trough. There are tracks leading back to Partners in Major Law Firms, Accounting firms and Lobbing firms, Banks and Government Officials who have been stealing with both hands from Pechanga too. There is enough blame to go around, and there are plenty of jail cells to fill. Pechanga is a target rich environment for the IRS and Feds. I hope everyone understands that the last one to rat out his frinds and family looses.
Pechanga club,not indians,most of these casinos are run by whites lets leave indians out of gaming in california.........People throw around indian crap and I am getting tired of it .If your 1/4 indian 3/4 white then your a white guy screwing people get the point?
That other 1/4 stuff is a pile of mistical magical horse shit,that I have been seeing people throw around in here for months!
from a tosobol
Iwould not vote for him but rather run against him and bring back the indian way let everyone have a voice and not hide in other state but spend time with all brothers and sisters and to respect ALL ELDERS
MIKE R
Do you know who Cassandra was? (The greek profit of doom)?
I feel bad for all of you,a broken record,doomed.Nobody would believe cassandra,she told them all what was going to happen,now its to late,nothing can save you.
Pechanga will become so ugly and dirty month after month ,year after year til it will no longer be!
Like one cup of blood was put in the Pechanga spring and the spring is turning completely bloody.
Macarro it's a sad day when you purposely screw over your own tribe for profit. Your day is coming, pay back is a b....., Juan Macarro is from San luis Rey not Pechanga, enrollment committee should investigate your family tree. You're so corrupt that's why you pay your brother 400k to your bidding and to protect your pot dealer Yoli.
If Mark was smart he would move to disenroll the leyva line. showing how they forge there papers.then bring back the hunters and put the blame for ther disenrollment on the Leyva line.
Who's the leyva line? and how does mark pay his brother 400 thousand?
And does Mark Buy Marijuana from Yoli? Does she grow it on pechanga?How much does he buy from her?Does yoli have a Drug Business on pechanga?
casas/ayal major criminals.
Who's the leyva line?
They are the Masiels and Basquez line.
Their ancestor was Francisca Leyva (Leyvas) who they claim is a descendant of Josepha Garcia but there are questions about whether they are actually related by blood to her or not.
As there are conflciting reports such as duplicate 1928 applications and several applications for a small per capita payment from a California judgement roll in the 1950's also with conflicting information
Also, she isn't listed with her 'mother' on any of the census records until several years after her birth and her 'mother' was not married to her father but to another man the year of her birth.
Ironic that they have more questions about their linage than we the Hunters had and some of them sat in judgement of us?
WTF is that their last name in the tribe? and so they are not pechanga either? How many in the tribe?
Oh come on,mark can,t touch them ,they will dis enroll him!
Take him in the back woods and pull out a corn cob!
Look out Garbani's it's only matter of time before Mark caves into Yoli and you're gone. At least the Hunters were honest, we used to support him.
Macarro got almost 200 votes to declare the petition invalid. That could mean a lot of things:
1. The Basquez Crime family was unprepared.
2. Even some Masiels don't trust Raymond Sr.
3. Mark's still got the gift of gab, lies flow like...buttah.
4. Even the weak-willed tribal members don't want to have Gloria Wright as a leader.
5. The tribe was willing to accept a child molester to do their dirty work of eliminating tribal members, but not to take over.
6. Only 300 members attended the meeting for PDC elections.
7. Too many Masiels are in jail?
8. The vote counting machine (they don't hand count votes most the time any more) is rigged.
He is a little silver tonged bass turd, isn't he.
does it work like the slot machines at pechanga?
What were the results of the PDC election - the so called reason that the CPP had a forum for the petition - Does anyone know this answer?
John Magee was ousted from PDC by ONE vote. Patric Murphy was installed.
Votes count
Reportedly John Magee also ran for tribal chairman against Macarro this past July and he lost by less than 100 votes.
With us, the Hunters in the tribe Macarro could have been defeated.
Mark has no power and the CPP aren't really from Pechanga.
This will be flung into the open and all will see how sad these corrupt people are.
It's becoming a power play of the weak minded and weaker willed.
Your guys have gone insane!!!!
WTF this is like a soap opera?
You have lost your marbles!
LOST TOUCH with whats real,Doctor phil help,OPARAH help,JERRY springer help!
Hey MARK! Too bad you got hosed on your face to face chance with President Obama.
He'll meet with Ahmahdinejad, but NOT YOU.
So, Gloria, you're hanging with a child molester? Really?
No matter what you do or say, you are in bed with a child molester.
Is Macarro so bad that the CPP would side with a child molestor and even let him stand out front?
Macarro is a dick, we all know that, but a child molester like Ibanez is the scum of the earth.
Maybe all who stood with the CPP in the disenrollment action love child molesters too.
I love conspiracy theries!
And these are the days of our lives.
The dollars going to hyper inflate and society as we know it will cease to exist! The stock market is going to collapse and no one will be gambling anyways!
Your guys have gone insane!!!!
WTF this is like a soap opera?
You have lost your marbles!
LOST TOUCH with whats real,Doctor phil help,OPARAH help,JERRY springer help!
Explain to the readers why people have gone insane?
What a great idea someone should get a hold of Oprah. She would love to hear what is going on with a day and a life of Pechanga's Mark Macarro. Who would she call insane? Wow and Jerry I can see you all on his show now. They would need more then his security and Dr Phil would more than likely say Mark Macarro is insane!
Dr.phil refused to air pechanga story.
Behind close doors and secret meetings Mark and others are plotting against the Garbani's, just like he did with us. Once the Garbani's are gone then maybe the people will wake up and see Mark for what he really is. Is the study of Dr. Johnson report of the Macarro family public information? If so, we might be able to use this as leverage to get reenrolled?
I keep hearing people implying that the Macarros are not Pechanga but do we know for sure?
Interesting though that the Macarros are mentioned in Dr. Johnsons report on the ancestry of Paulina Hunter showing her connection to other Pechanga families and that Juan Macarro, from his marriage document to Isabel (Tapia) Kengnish taken from the San Rey Luis mission records, is shown to be from Pauma but that Isabel is from Pechanga.
The connection to the Hunters is that Isabel was from the same clan as Paulina's maternal grandmother Restituta.
Johnson in this report says that Paulinario Macarro was the son of Juan and Isabel but does anyone know if the Macarros alive now are not his direct descendants but are from Juan's first wife?
jerry springer would air the pechanga story,its got that trailer trash touch.
yolie you wanna be on the show?
Maybe that's why they disregarded the Johnson report? Is there way to publish the Johnson report on line? or send it out to the news papers?
Yolie would go on the show if they feed her and gave her money and maybe some pot or seed for her garden
I love Mark Macarro, he is the leader for the future. I owe everything I have to his great leadership. History will remember him as a great man and leader!
Mark did some good things for the tribe. Sadly his legacy will be that of a despot who led a shrinking tribelet. Instead of growing him tribe, he's destroyed part of him.
He's not a great man. He's a great leader in the vein of Jim Jones, maybe....
Macarro has NOT led anyone to their deaths, like Jones. But he has destroyed the promised land for so many, including the descendents of the man who's land the casino is sitting on.
How's much Pechanga blood does Butch have?
So what was the reason Raymond Basquez decided to thin out the tribe?..was it all about money?...and why do you guys call them the Basquez crime family?..this all makes interesting reading!!...Im sure the IRS is already way deep into checking all the tax cheats involved...where there is so much money, they are always looking!!
I believe the Hunters to be Pechanga as even though there are legitimate questions about their linage, there are enough documents to answer those questions in this family's favor.
I think the problem is that they really didn't have a direct presence on the reservation for years after the death of Paulina. None of her children or grandchildren are listed on any census records after her death in 1899.
O.P. has said that Hunters have lived there since the 1940's and and 1950's but still that is a large gap from the generation of the 1800's.
So it is possible that some people from the generation after the reservation was created didn't really know the Hunters and don't consider them part of their tribe.
So it could be that people who testified against them in their disenrollment are not a bunch of money hungry crooks but really believe what they did was right.
I also think the Masiel/Basquez are likely Pechanga but their ancestor may have been born out of wedlock so that could explain some of the questions people may have about their line.
The problem is how to somehow reconcile the two groups in a way that is fair to all concerned.
Merry christmas to my family!
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"it could be that people who testified against them in their disenrollment are not a bunch of money hungry crooks but really believe what they did was right."
Perhaps, but when you concider statements made by members such as Ed Burbee (made to myself and my brother just before the first disenrollments were started by himself) "I want more money, and I don't care what I have to do to get it".
Or by enrollment committee members to Hunter Family members such as "you are going to be disenrolled NO MATTER WHAT information you provide".
Sorry that last one should have read "by an enrollment committee member", not multiple people, only one made that statement.
There is some evidence that some really believed what they did was right, and that was the hiring of Dr. John Johnson to make a study of Paulina Hunters linage. But it seems if this was so, why didn't they believe the report that he came back with?
I this it was a combination of some who really believe what they did was right, and some who did it for monetary gain.
I have been reading through the posted threads in here and in the pechangainfo board and I keep seeing references similar to, "you will see," and, "the truth will come out," and, "there will be huge developments very soon." But meanwhile nothng has changed. There have been no interesting new developments. What any interested observer can already see is that the truth has already come out... about six years ago.
Dr Johnson wrote another report back in the 70's, it was about human sexuality. Wait, maybe that was a different Dr Johnson. But the similarites of these two reports are in the irelevance to how they have had any effect on the Pechanga Tribe. Governments pay for reports all the time, some are used to shape policy and law, others are not.
The alleged quote which has not been shown to actually be a part of any report "nobody is more Pechanga..." actually makes litle sense. It has no context. It offers no more value to any argument than if aomeone were to say, "Nobody is more a carbon based life form than a Tosobol."
I suppose any group who is fighting for what they believe is justice must have something to hang onto for hope. This group here appears to hang all their hope on a shelved report and some alleged heresay quotes which even if true have no context, or validity, or even traction.
Ed Burbee is irrelevant. He hasn't held an elected position since what, the 70's? He's just a windbag with no backing. He's one single vote, that's all. Who the fuck cares if Ed said, "I want more per-capita and I will do anything to get it." I've actually heard Ed say that myself. The fact is, if Ed ever actually said this to anyones face, there is no way it was intended as any kind of threat because Ed is a physical coward. If you've been around, you know that. Point being sure, Easy Money Ed may have said that, but if this quote is an example of the corruption you claim exists, well it's pretty weak.
As for Frances Miranda, who cares what she said?
Anonymous of December 26,2010 4:09 PM said:
"I suppose any group who is fighting for what they believe is justice must have something to hang onto for hope. This group here appears to hang all their hope on a shelved report and some alleged heresay quotes which even if true have no context, or validity, or even traction."
First of all we proved we are legitimate tribal members even without the Johnson report which did clarify some points but hardly is the end all of our claim but simply reinforced our position.
Legal notarized statements from elders of the generation that the reservation was created that are in our favor are not hearsay but bonefide evidence acceptable in any legitimate court proceeding.
On the other hand the statements against our membership were actual hearsay with no proof whatsoever that what the people, all from the CPP faction of the tribe and mainly from one family in particular, were saying is true.
One of the those statements against us quoted elders from previous generations who allegedly said that we the Hunters are not Pechanga but with no proof they actually said what the current tribal members said they said and in fact one of those previous generation elders actually gave legal testimony in favor of three of Paulina Hunter's children in probate hearings taken in 1938.
Plus we had legal notarized statements from other current tribal elders in our support not from the CPP faction that was in direct opposition to the claims of the CPP.
As far as Ed Burbee is concerned you are right he really has no real relevance but I don't believe his statement was a threat but that he was scouting potential allies in his (and others) quest to get a bigger share of the pie and it shows the mindset of some of the people who orcastrated the disenrollments.
"What any interested observer can already see is that the truth has already come out... about six years ago."
Really what any interested unbiased observer with no self interest in what transpired can see is that we didn't get fair hearings in any way, shape, or form and that biased people with a clear conflict of interest who never should have been allowed to sit in judgement of our disenrollment case ignored every piece of evidence in our favor and merely rubberstamped their own foregone conclusion.
We can document that the deciding votes on the enrollment committee served our family member with disenrollment papers even before any evidence had even been presented that would have merited even opening up a disenrollment investigation and that when their initial challenge was disallowed they got their family members and friends to submit statements against us instead.
Article V of the Temecula Band's constitution and bylaws, sometimes referred to as the Pechanga Band of Mission Indians says:
"IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS OF THE BAND TO UPHOLD AND ENFORCE THE CONSTITUTION, BYLAWS, AND ORDINANCES OF THE TEMECULA BAND OF LUISENO MISSION INDIANS; AND ALSO, TO UPHOLD THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF EACH MEMBER WITHOUT MALICE OR PREJUDICE."
So how was allowing biased people with a clear conflict of interest to rule on and be the deciding votes against us not a violation of this equal protection clause?
And this isn't the only violation of our constitution and bylaws that occured when we the Hunters were disenrolled.
Old Pechanga, don't you have any interest in seeing that the true rule of law prevail?
Or do you just care about keeping your larger share of the profits that you get and even if you had nothing to do with our disenrollment, which I think may be the case, you going along with it is in effect silent approval of injustice.
Gentle readers, do you think any of our critics will ever explain how the Band's constitution and bylaws wasn't violated?
All they have, and it really is a huge, huge roadblock, is sovereighty but deep down, if they really know the truth, they know it was wrong what they did to us but they think we can't do anything about it.
So if you are right, old Pechanga, the tribal hack, or Mr. Potato Head, or whoever, answer how our conatitution and bylaws was not violated but use fact this time and not just general statements.
Mind you the issue about recusal of officials dealing with our case wasn't the only violation either.
It surprises me that you would say that last paragraph...so if Macarro voted you back in you would vote with him?...its hard to believe that you would after all the heartache he has caused you..of course I am not a tribal member , but read this site often because I used to gamble at Pechanga...if he is a snake now(according to this site)..why support him if he puts you back in?..because of money??..I have more respect for your plights than this flip-flop of support for him.
That last paragraph is a direct reflection on what is said in many houses, or under many oak trees in the political sense of Pechanga. These same favors is what made Pechanga what it is today. Do me a favor and I'll vote the way you want me to. It has been a pure democracy for 10,000 yrs. Kicking people out because they do not vote the way you think has tainted the democracy and will be hard to repair.
vote with my own mind... and you should too... it's not too late and it never will be to end this all by growing a tribe instead of thirst for power and money...
AHO!!
What anonymous of February 1, 2011 2:21 PM has to say is so True! The credibility and greed component is back on the disenrollees back if they are willing to comprimise their principles and support a person whom they labelled as a tyrant,to gain entrance to the palace. This attitude moves you closer to your greedy captors and makes you just another wannabee with the money people, and you have no human rights issue, only greed. You weaken your plight when you sell your souls to the devil.
It's greed to want what is rightfully yours, stolen by those who want what was yours?
It's greed to lose your heritage because your family members wanted to do what's right and get a family not related to us enrolled?
Macarro had many of our votes. He's doing what the CPP wants so he can stay in "power".
Money and all that comes with it is a right that belongs to ALL Pechanga, whether that money is $30,000 a month, or $3,000.
There has been no selling of souls to the devil. The devils are in the CPP.
Not all of us who were disenrolled support what O.P. stated here about potentially supporting Macarro but instead of being too critical of this one point, I will leave it at that because he does great work for our cause here on this blog
There is no recall attempt. It is a rouse with smoke and mirrors, by the CPP to see who is not following there little game. Jennie stands up and shouts out at tribal meetings that it is not hard to determine votes by clans. Mark says people sit with their own clans and it is easy to see who supports who. Don’t forget, these people have been strategizing the take over of Pechanga for over 30 yrs. Every thing that comes out of these people mouth is a lie. They will look you in the eye, and stab you it the back. It looks like a recall effort, but they are trying to see the cracks in their plans. Never, ever trust them. The writing is on the wall.
Any time they feel threatened they come up with some little political move. It gets people talking, and they can feel people out to see where they stand. Either your with them or against them. The CPP is a political nightmare.
There are cameras, and microphones everywhere. Mark uses these devices along with his other CPP friends to play the political puppet games. He uses Jennie, Raymond, Ed, Gloria et al. to make it look like they don’t like each other. He then uses the electronic devices to monitor others views as to what just happened. People believe that Mark keeps the game clean. Wrong, they are all in it together. Wake up people. The leadership is rotten to the core.
They say that other families are working the political games, but who plays these roles out? its clearly the CPP.
People who point fingers, have three of there own pointing back at them. Right Rose.
I do not put anything past the leadership at Pechanga. That sounds just like something Marcy and the bald woman would do, for we know that the rest are like sheep except for the potato he's a perv looking for little kids. I know that this is just me spewing meanness and it does not contribute to our efforts, but I can't get close enough to say anything to their face so why not just piss them off every once in a while, What are they going to do to me sue me? Let them I don't have anything that is worth taking
Marc you are Greedy you are all greedy!
Greedy!
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