That's half a BILLION DOLLARS, stolen by corrupt tribal councils and their leaders. They claim disenrollments weren't about the money, but the figures don't lie. That's something the Bureau of Indian Affair buries their heads in the sand to avoid. We first wrote about this story in January: Follow the Money....
From the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Mission Indians in Temecula CA:
The Hunter Family has lost $1,455,000 per person, in per capita payments alone. We arrived at that figure by taking the last full year of per capita $268,000/12 months and multiplying that loss times 58 months of disenrollment. 95 adults at the time of disenrollment equals: $139,200,000
The Apis Family was disenrolled the year prior in 2005. The per capita was slightly less about $17,000 per month times 62 months of termination: $1,186,000 times 135 adults equals: $217,200,000
Moratorium people NEVER shared in what was rightfully theirs. The per capita went up to $360,000 per year for those remaining after elimination of tribal citizens.
From the Picayune Rancheria in Coarsegold, CA:
In the case of Chukchansi Gold, the casino has been averaging $4 million per month in payments to the Tribe over the past 18 months (as reported to me by a former Tribal Council member).
The tribe disenrolled 625 members who were making $3,200 per month. This equates to $96,000,000 stolen. The word from that reservation is that they wanted to further reduce their population.
Lets add what we have so far:
Pechanga: $359.4 MILION Includes additional $22 Million in Health Insurance. Corrected Insurance due to coverages, some double covered as family. Per capita losses are $200,000 PER DAY.
Picayune: $ 104.0 MILLION Money is from share of dollars casino sends to tribe per person.
Redding: $ 32.3 MILLION Per capita only. Totals being tabulating but includes tribal JOBS lost.
Mooretown: $ 11.4 MILLION
Enterprise: $ 2.4 MILLION No Per Capita. Tribe gets revenue allocation. Losses include housing help.
And the tribal councils will say, it's NOT about the MONEY! But the Truth IS it IS because so many have lost homes, health insurance because their rightful per capita was taken away.
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People think disenrollees are only about the money. It would have more weight if the tribe hadn't taken all that money for themselves, immediately.
Our per-cap was actually $15,000 per month not including bonuses when we were disenrolled in March of 2004. One person for one year at that $15,000 would be $180,000. For 135 people for one year the amount would be $24,300,000. Given that we have been disenrolled for 11+ years we would have received $267,300,000 for the whole family this is just the average of whole years at $15,000. We have always understood our disenrollment to be centered more around our voting bloc, for with our 135 votes we were a real threat to Marcy, Butchy, and all of the rest of the CPP. Although that chunk of money did see an increase of what $5g for the rest of the tribe.
White Buffalo, the voting block was actually about 230 votes as we the Hunters were voting with your family on important issues so any coincidence we next on the chopping block?
What family line is that, White Buffalo?
I can answer that, White Buffalo's family line is the lineal descendants of Manuela Miranda granddaughter of Temecula chief Pablo Apish.
They didn't kick out all of Pablo's descendants though as there are still Apish in the tribe just those of M. Miranda.
THEN THERE WAS ALL OF US WHO FILED AND THE ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE JUST SORT OF MISPLACED OUR APPLICATIONS AND THEN WENT ON TO PUT THAT ILLEGAL "MORITORIUM" IN PLACE. THIS AFTER THE MEMBERSHIP VOTED IN THE NO DISENROLLMENT CLAUSE, AND A YEAR LATER DID IT ANYWAY! AND WITH ALL OF HIS (MARK'S) TREASONABLE ACTS AGAINST HIS MEMBERSHIP, HE IS GETTING AN "AWARD?" THE GOVERNMENT IS SAYING: "GOOD BOY, YOUR DOING A FINE JOB SCREWING THE NATIVE AMERICANS IN YOUR CHARGE!" AND, REMEMBER, KEEP IT UP FOR WE ARE BEHIND YOU! FOR IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO "THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT FOR THE GOVERNMMENT TO HELP DISENROLLED OR BANISHED NATIVE AMERICANS IN INDIAN COUNTRY. "CORUPTION IS AS CORUPTION DOES!" PLAIN AN SIMPLE! WITH SOVEREIGNTY BEING A TWO SIDED SWORD, SOVEREIGN BEING THAT WE NATIVE AMERICANS CAN GOVERN BY OUR OWN CONSTITUTIONS AND BY LAWS FOR THE GOOD OF ALL, AND THE OTHER: THE CRIMINAL AND CORRUPT ELEMENTS ILLEGALLY ELIMINATING THE TRUE NATIVE AMERICANS FROM WITHIN TO SATISFY THEIR ENORMOUS "GREED," AND IGNORING THE FUNDIMENTALS OF SAID CONSTITUTIONS AND BY LAWS; "BECAUSE THE CAN!" WE ALL KNOW IT'S "ABOUT THE MONEY!" BEFORE YHE "CASINO" WE ALL LIVED IN "HARMONY!" BUT WITH THE "CRIMINAL ELEMENT" IN CHARGE AT PECHANGA THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE. MARK MACARRO AND HIS HENCHMEN HAS DECIMATED OUR HERITAGE TO NOTHING MORE THAN HIS IN-SASH-ABLE APPETITE FOR HIS PRECIOUS POCKETBOOK, AT THE EXPENSE OF TRUE NATIVE AMERICANS THAT HAVE BEEN ILLEGALLY REMOVED FROM THEIR MEMBERSHIPS. AND THE GOVERNMWNT(INDIAN AFFAIRS) BACKS HIS EVERY UNJUST MOVE. IT IS SO SAD THAT BIRTHRIGHT AND HERITAGE MEANS NOTHING TO THIS "TREASONIOUS" S.O.B. (MARK). AS I'VE SAID BEFORE: THE PECHANGA TRIBAL COUNCIL AND MEMBERSHIP NEEDS TO REMOVE THIS CANCER(MARK), SO WE CAN HEAL THE WOUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN SO GRIEVIOUSLY THRUST UPON US BY HIM(MARK) AND HIS HENCHMEN. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY AND MEANS, SO STOP BEING AFRAID "OF THE BIG BAD WOLF" AND DO YOUR JOB. START FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION AND BY LAWS AND WE CAN BEGIN TO "HEAL!" IF YYOU THINKTHE "CRIMINNAL ELEMENT(MARK AND HIS HENCHMEN) ARE TO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED FOR YOU(THE MEMBERSHIP) TO TAKE ACTION? WELL THERE NOT! FOR IF YOU DON'T TAKE A STAND AGAINST THE CORRUPT AND GREEDY ELEMENT(MARK AND HIS HENCHMEN), IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE! THEN WHO WILL BE NEXT ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK FOR DISENROLLMENT? QUIT RUNNING SCARED, PECHANGA, DO YOUR JOB! CLEAN YOUR HOUSE BEFORE ONE OF YOU IS NEXT! IF YOU THINK IT WON'T HAPPEN(DISENROLLMENTS), THINK AGAIN! HE(MARK AND HIS HENCHMEN) DID IT TO US(HUNTERS') AND YOU KNOW YOU"RE NOT SAFE IF YOU FALL FROM GRACE! DON'T LET MARK AND HIS HENCHMEN GET AWAY WITH THEIR CRIMINAL AND CORRUPT ACTS ANY LONGER OR YOU(PECHANGA MEMBERSHIP) WILL PAY THE ULTIMATE PRICE: "DISENROLLMENT" WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. INDIAN COUNTRY IS UNDER "SIEGE" FROM CORRUPT AND GREEDY TRIBAL LEADERS BECAUSE THEY CAN! WE NEED TO STOP THIS FROM WITHIN, BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT(INDIAN AFFAIRS), THEY ARE NOT FOR THE DIS-INHERITED NATIVE AMERICAN, AGAIN, FOR THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT.
Bonuses would be counted as a loss too.
It's been 6 years for Apish descendents...2005
Hey smokey...do you have o write in all caps??..it's hard to read...you have great things to say, but please take your caps off...thank you!!
I agree, Smokey. I try to read all you say but with the caps lock on, it makes it difficult.
Don't let anyone miss what you say, please turn off the caps.
We received our Record of Decision with our last per-cap in the month of March 2004, so we have our disenrollment anniversary every year in March. Yes the voting bloc was that large with the two families; enough, so that if we would have stayed in things on the rez would be different today. I wonder what the atmosphere would be like today at the casino and the tribal government center. It is a shame that the moratorium is still in place I know several of my cousins’ who are also still waiting up until we were disenrolled. I would bet those old witches’ put some evil hex on those applications before they threw them away.''
Smokey I hate to be a nit-picker as well but the ALL CAP’S thing is hard to read. It is my understanding that to use all caps is to express extreme emotion, Understand that we are all very emotional about this subject/problem so you are not alone.
Please check out www.susanbradford.org . No wonder why Mark .M was looking for other tribe woman which he found date holly cook m bez she is also ietan too more than her hubby mark .today pechanga they get pre capt around $80,000 or$ 1,000 ,0000 month bez they disenrollment us also they paid tons money to any tribe government court you name that is why is powerful and money lead to devil ignore god!
O.K., guys we'll try it. Your right, its always been with and for "emotion." I get caught up in the moment, and then I just let it flow. I write better that way. I read O.P.'s posts and then all of yours, then I formulate an image about the subject at hand, then I get angry about things that matter to us all: Our Birthright, stolen from us, and our Heritage now in question! Things that matter most to a Native American Indian. This by Criminal Elements that exist in the Pechanga Membership,, A.K.A the "Macarro Cartel!" I always use the term "Cartel" because it befits what it relates to: Drug lords that rule with an Iron Fist and eleminates those that oppose them! Mark has the same effect on the Pechanga Membership, he has them affaid and running scared that they might be next on the chopping block. They uses guns and you disappear for "EVER." Mark uses Disenrollments in hopes that you will disappear "FOREVER!" Its all for Power and Greed, but the same! Harsh, Maybe, but fitting. Mark and his Henchmen have commited "TREASON" against his, no our Tribe, for nothing more then "Greed and Political Power!" So I guess I'm saying that we need to go after these S.O.B.'s with the same ferver as you would a "Cartel or a Malignant Tumor" that threatens your very life. Cut them out, and make them go away. "Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians life depends on it!" (Does that work for you guys?)
9/11, ten years later, and terrorism still exists! We take precautions so the integrity of our nation can survive any and all attacks on our very existence. Ten years later, and terrorism still exists within the Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians. With sovereignty comes the criminal element (Mark Macarro and his Henchmen) that tears at the very fabric of "OUR" very existence. There is no integrity, honesty, or fair play: just "Corruption and Greed." Our right to exist is in question and the "Macarro Cartel" and the Enrollment Committee has ignored every bit of evidence that was presented to them proving that we are legitimate. This falls under the gize of "Treasonous Acts" against our own. Our Constitution and By Laws have always been for the good of the Membership, now with the criminal element(Mark)in control: "Where is it?" I liken it to if the American Government ignored and shelved our U.S. Constitution! Just think of the consequences of that! But that is what's happening within Pechanga! Our Constitution and By Laws have been circumvented and shelved so the Criminal Element(Mark and his Henchmen) can do virtually any illegal act without any form of repecussions. Because they can! Sovereighty, at the hands of a Criminal Element (Mark and his Henchmen) is a "TREASONOUS ACT" against the true Native American Indians in his charge, and the Government(Indian Affairs) allows this travisty of justice to continue unabated. Can't say it any plainer than that. Our Constitution and By Laws have stood the test of time for the good of us all till the advent of the Casino. Now with the Criminal Element (Mark and his Henchmen) in power, it seems, no "IS," without Substance or Merit. It should have been our "LIFELINE" to what is Right and Just. "Sovereignty" allows Mark and his Henchmen to commit "TREASON!"
Much better. thank you. It is so much better ro read post that do not feel like they are screaming at you. As for our government it sure appears that we have become "The United Corporate States of America”
Has anybody bothered to write this congressman and fill him in on the things that Macarro has done.??.including the land deal and lies before he had the golf course put in?
also, is Macarro one of those that keeps a mailbox on the res so he can get his State tax exempt?...and how many other tribe members do the same thing??..the Franchise Tax board pays rewards for that kind of info I think....
No, have you bothered to write?
Listen, letters have been written, and sent to the Government(Indian Affairs), specificately, the White Mans Whore: "Larry Echohawk!" And also to Senators, Assemblyman, and the "like" with always a "Blind Eye" and a "Deaf Ear!" And talk about the "Drive By" Media? Well most won't even venture into the subject of "Human and Civil Rights Violations" because these "Money Hungery Casino Tribes" spend a good amount (of ill gotten) money to adverise with them. So, I ask you, why would they bite the hand that feeds them? The Government(Indian Affairs) acts as if they were a common street "Junkie" waiting for the "Casino Indians" to dole out their next "Fix!" It is my Considered Opinion that they know exactly what they are doing. For as we all know, that "Money Talks!" Why would they even consider helping to fix what is Broken in Indian Country, "For there is no "Money to be made" in helping (Illegally Terminated) Disenrolled/Banished Native Americans. For Corruption is, as Corruption does: Plain and Simple!
Anonymous....I don't know the names of the people cheating like the ex members do, so it's hard for me to report them without knowing names....I am not tribal.
Well, So far everyone are always complain about not doing job or looking for information from white house that had all information for who you complain Bia ,you name there is e-mail then whatever you speak up louder!
Writing to people and complaining isn't going to do anything for you. Civil disobedience is the only way you will win this. Yes, you will have to get out of your chair.
Actually, writing has been successful. The intended theft of water rights by Pechanga against allottees was thwarted by letters, and of course a visit by Apish, Hunter and Tosobol representatives.
How unimpressive. So your water rights make you true Pechanga now? An important issue for sure, but it is sad that maintaining the status quo could be considered a victory.
In reality, writing has done nothing but make the dis-enrolled look like bitter arm-chair quarterbacks.
Don't get me wrong... I'm happy to see that they couldn't leverage your water-rights against you. You actually had a legitimate case there that went beyond sovereignty. Your dis-enrollment in the tribe doesn't. The chairman said himself that it was an internal issue, and that is completely correct. Why are you writing to others, when you have the power to bring about change yourselves? Do you really think the United States or California is going to step in and say, "Hey guys, we want to set aside your sovereignty for just a minute and make you re-enroll those guys you kicked out." I think not. They will never impose sanctions on the tribes, and they will only support the functions of the tribal courts.
How many years has it been now since you could call yourself Pechanga? Do you think that doing the same thing you've been doing for years is going to yield different results? Try something new: get all of the dis-enrolled together from across California, if not the country, and stage a sit-in in overwhelming numbers inside of their government offices. Get arrested for peacefully protesting, but resist, resist, resist. Start with one reservation, and move on the the rest.
Just reading some of the articles in here, being an outsider myself, why does the disenrollment issue always end up with the disenrolled being angry they dont get the money? I would be more concerned with just the recognition. Looks like theres alot of greed on both sides . :(
Anonymous 10:29
Recognition is important, and that's why it's highlighted so many places.
Is it greedy to want what is rightfully yours? Or is it greed to want what is someone elses?
This whole disenrollment mess got started when Manuela Miranda and Hunter family members stood up for Tosobal family who rightfully belonged in the tribe. Adding 80 more tribe members would have shrunk the per capita being paid, but no matter, the Tosabols belonged to Pechanga.
A faction of the tribe didn't want them in because "there were too many votes" and they couldn't control them.
The money is STAGGERING, over $1.5 million...EACH has been stolen in just per capita. That's over $300 million total. Which would get more press, a robbery of $300 million or a 7-11 of $50? Money is what politicians understand, civil rights they pay lip service to, unless it's about illegals. Sad but true.
The Tosabol family deserves to be in the tribe, to be recognized.
Our people were disenrolled for power and money, the moratorium people were kept out for money and the power change they could effect.
The total is nearly $2 MILLION that those who were caught in the moratorium have been denied... but, it's not about the money...
That was $2 million EACH.
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