Many commenters have complained about the smoke in casinos. Pechanga claims to have one of the most advanced air cleaners, but isn't it like having a NO PEEING section in the swimming pool?
Is second hand smoke only dangerous at non-tribal business entities?
San Diego Reader has the full article
Some casinos, such as Pechanga, boast about their air-circulation/ventilation systems. “Ventilation systems may improve odor, but do not remove the serious health risks caused by secondhand smoke exposure,” says Americans for Nonsmokers’ Rights. “Casino workers even in a ‘well-ventilated’ casino have [metabolized nicotine] levels 300 percent to 600 percent higher than employees in other smoking workplaces during a work shift.”
23 comments:
Smoking in casinos create an unsafe working environment. Where are the unions?
I have written about that issue on here and gotten attacked by Smokey.....my other question is Pechanga charges upwards of $6 a pack and I wonder if they actually pay the normal surcharges to the State that everyone else pays on cigs or do they pocket the money since they are State exempt?...and the same question on the gas tax charges at the gas stations.?
The safety of employees and customers should be of prime concern.
I think they are NOT state exempt. They CAN and DO charge more in hotel taxes. That tax goes to the tribe. They pay no local and county tax.
Anonymous said...
I have written about that issue on here and gotten attacked by Smokey.....my other question is Pechanga charges upwards of $6 a pack and I wonder if they actually pay the normal surcharges to the State that everyone else pays on cigs or do they pocket the money since they are State exempt?...and the same question on the gas tax charges at the gas stations.?
"You betcha!" 2nd hand smoke is no more dangerous then the air you breath behind a school bus, or smoke stacks from factories, cleaning agents you inhale while cleaning your house. So I say again: "Don't get me started on this subject"...It's just one more "Civil Liberty" I still "Possess!" It's like telling you can't drink, or telling you you can't take medication: With unreal side effects that, in itself, could "Kill You." So leave it alone, and stay on "Track" with our fight against our true "Nemisis:" The "Criminal Elements" of "Pechanga!"
People do not sit for hours behind a school bus and smoke stacks do put pollutants in the air.
Smoking is not like a medication, it spews harmful smoke in an enclosed enviroment. Smoking outside is another matter.
Anti smoking legislation would take away some customers from Pechanga and some consideral earnings and is a valid subject. And the health of employees is also an issue.
We do not need to have only one focus. We all should be able to multi-task.
Thank you O Pechanga...I appreciate your support...I have always thought if you could get some news coverage on this smoking issue, you might be able to get some coverage on the destruction of your tribe....people will react to something like smoking and then the other issues can be brought to light....does anybody know ...since the EPA is a federal agency and handles air pollution, would they get involved with this issue?
And Smokey...I don't argue that you have a right to smoke, but as a non-smoker, I should have the right not to breath your smokey pollution that in MY opinion is dangerous!...and there are no real non-smoking areas in the casinos.
Smokey, I usually support your views, but in this case I completely disagree. I have a non-smoking loved one that works at the casino and that person is already having health problems that are heart and lung related. Before working there, there were no signs of any health issues. Bloodwork confirms factually that the secondhand exposure is taking its toll, but not enough to quit working there it seems.
You can have your civil liberty in your home, but keep it away from me.
I wonder if the tribe would allow employees to where masks to protect them from smoke.
On the smoking issue, I don't think they should be able to ban anyone from smoking OUTSIDE.
No, employees are not allowed to wear masks except during wildfires and they're working outside. And I agree, smoking outside is fine.
Smokey,
Stay on track. You deviate from your cause by engaging in smoking issue.
Any issue that hurts the tribe is a good issue!....people should know about the air quality in those places...the fancy air purifiers at Pechanga don't work...that's why the employees are always getting sinus infections....after 1 hour in Prchanga, even my wallet and shoes smelled like smoke....
Well now, my intention isn't getting into a "Debate" on "Smoking," but it keeps coming up. My "Contention" is the "Air" we all "Breath," here in "California," is "Toxic!" That is where the "Buses, Smoke Stacks, and the like" are the "Real Problem." "NO MORE, NO LESS!" Enough said on that subject. Can we please get back to the task at hand: "Fighting these Criminal Tribal Leaders and their Treasonous Acts against us all. You don't have to like what I say about "Smoking," but know this: I have the "Right To Voice It!"
I am a non-smoker who also agrees that 2nd-hand smoke is dangerous to everyone. Isn't human life more important than?
It makes good sense for gambling joints to adhere to society-at-large laws that protect everyone; even if they do not legally have to.
Smokey, I understand your point regarding the environment.
Solution for Smokey..what size your head? sm,med,or lg? When u like smoke, wear plastic bag over head!LOL
No get mad,Smokey; u big fella!
You have important insights to share...I appreciate you :)
Are you saying you are such an addict that you can't go a couple hours without smoking?...wow...go outside and have some consideration for your fellow man...the way you think,
Smokers are the only ones with any rights and to hell with non-smokers....your smoking affects others.... A person that doesn't smoke has no affect on anybody...!
" A person that doesn't smoke has no affect on anybody...!"
Not true! You are breathing MY oxygen and exhaling CO2 in my face (a proven poison gas).
And this is from a non-smokers point of view
Stinkyaircasinos said...
Are you saying you are such an addict that you can't go a couple hours without smoking?...wow...go outside and have some consideration for your fellow man...the way you think,
Smokers are the only ones with any rights and to hell with non-smokers....your smoking affects others.... A person that doesn't smoke has no affect on anybody...!
So, we're still into the "Smoking..Non Smoking "Debate? Listen, I'm far from being against the rights that you have as a "Non Smoker. My "Intention" was too, no is too, shed a little light on the
the otherside of the coin: "The Smokers Rights!" And this means bringing to the table the fact that the air we "Breath," here in California, is also "Toxic" and that there are other factors that cause a lot of the "Respitory Problems" that we all face because of this. I follow the rules mandating no smoking in eating establishments, and the like. And if a ban on "Smoking" in a casino were to come about, I would adhere to that also. And to answer your question: Sure I can go a couple hours with out smoking, I smoke about a pack a day. "SO I Get It, Always Did!" My "Intent" was to show you all that "Second Hand Smoke" is minimal in the larger sceam of the air we "Breath Everyday" here in "California." Not to rain on your parade. And I agree that you shouldn't have to breath anyones "Second Hand Smoke!" But for now. the casino's allow smoking, and until that has been "Terminated," I guess we will continue to play the game. But if that ever comes about, I will go outside to "Smoke!" I've never had a problem with that. Just so you know: My "American Legion" has no smoking. We all go out to a patio. And I'm alright with that. So I'm not "Unsympathic" to you "Non Smokers, just thought you should see it from another point of view...."NOW CAN WE...PLEASE...GET BACK TO THE TASK AT HAND....AND OUR FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS?" And put this subject to bed once and for all?
So Smokey, if the casinos didn't allow smoking inside you'd be ok with that? Sounds like we agree then. I say a person should be able to smoke as much as they like outside or in their own home, but shouldn't smoke around others inside in more public places.
Anonymous said: Solution for Smokey..what size is your head? sm,med,or lg? When u like smoke, wear plastic bag over head!LOL
Probably a "Stater Bros. Bag" over my head would do just fine. Maybe I could realize two or three cigarettes from the "Initial" one smoked. LOL!
Anonymous said...
So Smokey, if the casinos didn't allow smoking inside you'd be ok with that? Sounds like we agree then. I say a person should be able to smoke as much as they like outside or in their own home, but shouldn't smoke around others inside in more public places.
Yes I would.
This is a little off what we are
here for, but needs to be said.
My two cents
Okay, I have to say something about the Marine pissing incident. Was it inappropriate? Yes. Would I have done it? Probably not. Would I have done it when I was 19? Maybe. Were there times that I may have done it in Viet Nam if time permitted? There is a good chance for, “probably”. We send kids a year out of high school to the worst hell holes on earth and expect them to behave better than they did at their senior prom. So many Americans have lived for multiple generations with security at home that they can’t comprehend what goes on in other parts of the world. “War is Hell”, isn’t just something they say in the movies. First of all, you are exhausted all the time because you never sleep deeply. Your body is running on high idle even when you try to rest. The places we send these kids to, stink from lack of sanitation. There are bugs and mold and mildew and trash and human waste everywhere. You are in some level of fear all the time. You have seen, smelled, heard, touched and done things no sane person would ever want to do.
There is no script for war. It is improv at it’s best. Shit happens and it happens fast. A blind eye should be turned to many, many things.
We have no idea what led up to this incident. Did these kids eat in the past 24 hours? Have they slept in the past 36 hours? What did these talabaners do?
War is about killing people and breaking their things. We have forgotten how to fight. You can’t win peoples hearts while shooting their Uncle Fred. We knock down a dung and stick shed, and then replace it with a $12,000,000 hospital! Well who won that one?
This is how we need to fight.
1. Go in, kick ass on those who pissed us off.
2. Destroy their infrastructure.
3. Go home when you are sure they won’t have the desire to screw with us again for at least two generations.
I hate war. I’m glad my Sons didn’t have to go to war.
In reference to current times, we will never win the hearts of muslims. They don’t even like themselves, hate their family and kill their neighbors, so what chance do we stand. The only course to follow is to convince them that the cost of messing with the west is way to too high.
Back to the pissing kids. Slap their hands, tell them not to do it again and not to try to figure out how pissing is bad and killing is okay.
War is HELL; it sucks, smells bad and is bad for your physical and mental health. Don’t sit in your recliner watching CNN and pass judgment on these kids. For you have got to know that in the overall scheme of it all: "So What!"
everyone needs to make a complaint to OSHA...its a Federal agency that regulates keeping employees safe in the workplace...they will go into the casino with air readers and take samples...even the tribes cant keep exposing thousands of employees and patrons to horrible amounts of air pollution....go to the OSHA website for california phone numbers...
Well said and thank you Smokey.
You have got to know that the "War on Terror" isn't something new, and with evey war, or conflict, that we have ever been engaged in, is "Proof Of That."
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