Are you descended from Pala people? If so, GET YOUR APPLICATIONS IN!
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| Notice of acceptance of Enrollment Applications |
Saturday, May 19, 2012
After Eliminating 15% of the Tribe, PALA Opens Enrollment. HURRY, offer Ends Soon!
Pala delivered the news to members this week. They are opening enrollment! Robert Smith must've said... HEY, let's cut our tribe, then add some more!! We are sovereign, and we don't have to show evidence or explain. I'm the CHIEF, I don't need to tell you what I spend tribal money on.....
Are you descended from Pala people? If so, GET YOUR APPLICATIONS IN!
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Speaking of which...Pechanga created a moratorium so that the enrollment committee would have time to correct the records. How long does it take? 15 years is a long time even for Frances Miranda and Ihrene Scearce.
Are you descended from Pala people? If so, GET YOUR APPLICATIONS IN!
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Smith. What is your little pea brain gonna come up with next. Are you kidding me. Bia are you seeing this crap. When is enough gonna be enough. When will someone step in and say. Are you kidding me. There cannot be rational thinking in that mans mind. Disenroll. Then hey let's enroll so it looks like I'm not such a bad guy after all. Your time is coming my friend and also are you gonna tell me how a DNA test is gonna determine blood quantum. Huh? Also do you have a DNA from the original allotted to base our DNA sample off of. What a joke. Wake up
Well Mr. Smith if you are DNA testing new members you might want to DNA existing members also. Stop discriminating.
Hey wait ,I am Cahuilla Indian 1/4 should I put in paperwork haha.
Enrollment is nothing new why are you acting as though it is unheard of? There are still families with blood, none of wich is spoken about. What now they are gona be attacked! Ya this site is evil! All it is is a one sided opinion of greedy people loosing their money! NOTHING ELSE! Mad because there are people with more pala blood. Not to mention the people with total Indian blood, shoot you people don't even make that .
You people don't make what now?
"Mad because there are people with more Pala blood."
...so you admit they have the Pala blood needed but you are just saying that there are people there with more "Pala" blood who you personally believe are more deserving of enrollment?
Thanks for the comment smith family member. As soon as he stops discriminating against true lineal Indians. Then the people who have the PROOF of thier heritage. Will stop coming down on a man who doesn't. And knows it. Also FYI. I have more blood than probably all of the e c and can PROVE it. All they can prove is how they can hide behind soveriegnty. Well that time is closing in on him and he knows it. If you have so much proof. Why not show the reporter the other night in te interview and say "see here it is now tell them to drop it". You know why. Because its a CROCK. There is nothing but the simple phrase. "im soveriegn. I don't have to show you nothing". Because there is NOTHING to show. Day of reckoning is close at hand. And one day you will be judged. And I would give everything to be standing there when it happens. PRICELESS!!!!!!
ENROLLMENT IS NOT UNHEARD OF!!! Take that out of content. YES AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BELOW A 1/16, and they have the right to be enrolled . YES WITH DNA APPROVAL, YES!!!
JUST BECAUSE YOU GET DISSENROLLED DOESN'T MEAN TRIBE STOPS ENROLLING QUALIFIED MEMBERS!
PROOF OF FATHER DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!!
Enrollment is not unheard of, you are correct.
If the disenrolled had more than 1/16 do they have a right to be enrolled?
well I guess you have not read the proof of who the father is! Im sure Robert can get you a copy,the one he has been hideing all these years.
THIS PARTICULAR ARTICAL IS SAYING HOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CHAIRMAN CHANGES THINGS UP AND DECIDES TO ENROLL. AND IM SAYING NO, THAT'S IS NOT HOW IT GOES!
Sure. Please have a copy of that evidence sent out.
And I agreed. Enrollments are normal. There is an open enrollment time every year.
Perhaps it is the timing of it all.
He wants be seeing as a man who cares about people,just like that bs gift he made to the school a month ago.hey by the way how is that Pala speedway doing?another one of his great ventures without the tribes appoval
"Enrollment is nothing new why are you acting as though it is unheard of?"
Hey what's your proof, show us your blood if you are so high and mighty. What if this was you, where you knew you had the blood, you could prove it, but they didn't care and cut you off? Then what would you be doing? Would you sit back and let it happen to you, or would you fight and get upset that they were not listening to you? If you don't care about the money so much, then offer to stop receiving your per-capita. Watch everything you have get taken away, see how that affects you. It is unjust of you to judge us when you are not in our shoes. I have lost everything because I cannot make all the payments, my son had to quit college during his last semester, my house is on short sale, and we can't even claim bankruptcy yet because we made too much. I had to surrender my cars, and we even work, but it doesn't cover what we were making. So if Robert said we should have known about this then why did the Executive Committee tell our lenders we were members? Put yourself in our place for just one minute and imagine the travesty, and there is no unemployment. I don't have health care. My credit score is plummeting fast so it is going to be hard to find anywhere to live. This and the fact that our heritage has now been stripped from us, the people still enrolled are stuck with choosing sides, the moral is down, but you think it is all ok, because it is not happening to you. If it was you and not me I would feel bad and try to help and stand up for you because that's what family does and most people in Pala are somehow related. We are not trying to change things for you, we are just trying to make things right.
Brttain descendents I would warn you that you deserve reinstatement and not "re-enrollment" as you legally should never had been disenrolled in the first place. You are in appeals. Focus on making the BIA fight for you.
Last anonymous. I agree and believe me we are fighting for what's right and fighting to force bia to help restore what is right. And we as a REAL family. Will NEVER stop. EVER!!!!!
"...make the BIA fight for you." The BIA will have to forced kicking and screaming to do anything. That is why we are going back to court, to make them do their job. The Enrollment Ordinance that was used to disenroll us denied us due process. The BIA approved it even though it is illegal as per the ICRA.
I would like to see one person who has submitted DNA and proven their bloodline enough to satisfy the EC before I would spend a cent on it. I just don't know how a DNA test will be able to prove that you have 1/16th Pala blood. If our Enrollment Committee would like to share with us how they will evaluate DNA submissions then I might pursue it.
Oh wait, they only accept DNA samples from people who aren't descended from Margarita Brittain. Should have known...
Do you think pechanga is next to announce open enrollment?
No johnny come lately's, at pechanga and they are not going to re enroll the dis enrolled people at pechanga(orders per the cupcake council) and Jenny .
How about the moratorium people?
I'm a student at UCR I took a survey from alot of friends and other people, aalot of them say it was repeat of the last interview years ago, none of them knew of a moratorium, they said it would have made a big difference if that was brought up.
Francis is an old piece of shit!, I'm surprized she's still alive the old fuck! bring in the moratorium, they've waited way to long, The Tosabols need to be enrolled.
Question: Who are they asking to apply? They have already disenrolled the "True Members." Or do they already have a list of who they are going to let in, and ignore the rest? Sounds a little "Fishy!"..."Eagle Eyes."
I think smith screwed up, he's gotta find way to redeem his sorry old ass!
Listen to Smith speak; watch his body language...
Speach is slurred and somewhat monotone, and his body language is somewhat subdued.
He could also be suffering from dementia/alzheimers....pitiful...
Another possible factor is that he may be over-medicated or under the influence of alcohol.
Smith is unwell.....
Secrets are Lies.
There are Courses for Tribal Council's to take to learn how to "Correct the Roles" is how they state it. That is who we need to go after, how can that be Morally or Ethically okay to do to Human beings. Being that Attorney's should be held accountable at a higher standard than the rest of us, especially the Elected State and County Officials who didn't help us from harm. They are not "Sovereign". That should be the next step.
the tribe sends this letter out every year around the same time
Dna testing?? Since when i though the tribes constitution states they go off of the 1913 allotment rolls in which MB was 4/4ths?
Seems like they want to base off dna which they know alot of members at the moment won't even be eligible to be enrolled... So they want the recently dissenrolled to be dna tested and if they don't meet the requirements they can say "we gave them a chance but the dna shows otherwise" but if they are starting dna testing than it should be applied to all members which they won't because they know they themselves won't meet requirements! Plain and simple ROB SMITH needs to be stopped!
DNA testing will not prove blood degree, but it will prove lineage. So if Brittain descendants provide DNA results it will only say that they are related, and who their ancestors are. We know who our ancestors are, and so does Robert Smith. He's forgotten his connection to the Trujillos and the Lubos/Magees, and if only there weren't so many stupid people propping him up we could fix this awful mess.
Really, all you Pala people that think Robert Smith has done well by you, take another look. You could have gotten double the money if he hadn't paid off all those lawyers, bribed anyone he couldn't intimidate, stole right and left, lost every investment he ever made with the tribe's money, and spent so much time throwing his weight around instead of taking care of the people.
You don't even realize that the paltry raise he gave you is less than half of what he stole from the disenrolled, and he's keeping the rest of the money for himself. The $1 million a month miscelleaneous fund in the tribal budget is his petty cash, the tribe's jet gets lent out to his daughter, he bought six houses with the tribe's money, he travels and plays and gambles and parties, and it's all on the tribe's tab. That is what sovereignty means to him. Carte Blanche to steal from his own people.
Very well said reinstatement_restitution. I have said before to those that are still enrolled and think their dear mr smith is so wonderful. Your raise you got after disenrollments should have been alot more where is the rest of the money smith did you buy a 7 th house???? Another new car??? Pay off some more politicians??? Hire another attorney???
Smith, like Macarro, is "Devious and Uncaring" and has the same "Un-sash-able Appitite" for how much they can "Steal" from their own. Their "Constitution and Bylaws" are "Ignored" for their own "Self Interest." There is no attempt to even try to cover their "Illegal Actions" for "Sovereignty" is their weapon of choice, and to "Destroy" what was truly intended with "Self Relience." And all this for "Greed!"...."Eagle Eyes."
It is so sad. We spent so many years facing discrimination, insult, relocation, and prejudice. They stuck us on reservations, tried to destroy our language and culture, made us go to substandard schools, put up with bad or no medical care. They said we were stupid savages, and alcoholism and high suicide rate were proof that Indians can't even run their own lives. They wouldn't hire us, made fun of us, gave us the food they wouldn't eat themselves.
Then some clever person decided that they could use our reservations for gambling. They corrupted the tribal leaders, promised them great wealth, and those leaders told the people this is our way to become independent. We won't have to take handouts anymore. We can take care of everyone, and it will be a different life for us all.
Now here we are, the casinos payout money allright, but the lawyers, politicians, bureaucrats, and lobbyists all take their cut right off the top, even before the tribal leaders. Those tribal leaders are led by the nose by these outsiders, but they got rich so they don't care that some jerk like Howard Dickstein gets as much or more than they do, and even makes them hire his wife as a lobbyist, even though her main role in life to sit on Cal State Bar Association and block her hubby's disbarment.
Now these tribal leaders have become lying, thieving bigots. They discriminate against their own people. They humiliate us, saying you don't have enough blood because I say so, and there's nothing you can do about it because I am sovereign.
I used to be proud of my tribe for the good they did in helping their people out of poverty and ending the reign of domination from the whites. Now they act just like the whites. Family, blood, land, history, tradition mean nothing. All that is important is money and power, and kicking people when they are down.
The Great Spirit is wounded to the core.
The more Smith gets pulled out on the carpet the more the public and U.S. Congress see how foolish of a leader he is. Rep. Darrel Issa is getting a good look at the Pala terrorist in his own district. Where are Smith's "minders", the lawyers and publicist? The longer Issa remains silent on this shameful mess at Pala, then the more he "buys" into it. I can already see his letter: "It is an internal tribal matters."
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