$400 MILLION! Remember that the next time Pechanga gives $5,000 to a school.
The Apis/Manuela Miranda family was disenrolled two years prior, in 2004, our previous posts mistakenly put their disenrollment in 2005. The per capita was slightly less, about $17,000 per month times 102 months of termination: $1,734,000 times 135 adults equals: $234,090,000
The Hunter family has lost $1,742,000 per person, in per capita payments alone. We arrived at that figure by taking the last full year of per capita $268,000/12 months ($22,333 per month) and multiplying that loss times 78 months of disenrollment. 95 adults at the time of disenrollment equals: $165,487,000
These totals do not include lost education assistance nor does it account for family members that attained the age of majority.
Moratorium People NEVER shared in what was rightfully theirs. The per capita went up to $360,000 per year for those remaining after elimination of tribal citizens. But the moratorium people have certainly had over $2 MILLION dollars cheated from them.
And the tribe will say, “it’s not about the money”. There are 400 MILLION reasons why that's a lie. But here are the consequences of Pechanga's unconstitutional actions:
Pechanga now has a group living on the reservation that have:
• Lost the right to vote
• Lost their rights to healthcare provided by the government.
• Their children can no longer attend tribal schools
• They can no longer be buried in the reservation cemetery with their relatives.
• Have no access to tribal health center
• Are not protected by the Tribal Rangers.
The TEMECULA PATCH HAS PICKED UP THE POST
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Has anyone heard any new developments to the two thousand slot machines that were illegally transported to Mexico so the Miranda's could open a casino?
I heard that Raymond Basquez and Ronald Rivera both are rapist with prison records were involved. Mark Macarro is refusing to forward with their involvement. The reason he went ahead with the first group is he personally hates Anthony and Andrew Miranda. Jennie, Raymond and Larry Miranda were just too close to them so they thrown out to get to them. Now I wonder if Jennie and Larry were disenfranchised are they still receiving their per capita under the table just like they secretly enrolled people that were in the moratorium.
picayune also illegally (and quietly) enrolled around a hundred people in the moratorium under the (?)"leadership" of dustin graham as chair in 2007-2008...
furthermore, it has once again surfaced that the land base on which dustin graham claims his membership as a chukchansi "allottee" is actually a forest service homestead...funny how picayune has become increasingly more exact and specific about what they determine to be a "chukchansi indian allottment", yet they let stand a homestead from the forest service for dustin...???
and lets all remember, picayune rancheria was actually originally established FOR ALL HOMELESS INDIANS--NOT defining allottments, NOT defining distributees, NOT even defining tribe as chukchansi...
!!!bring the people--ALL the people--home to picayune!!!
When we were disenrolled in March of 2004 we were receiving 15 thousand a month. After taxes it was about 9.5 thousand.
Dirty smelly pechanga,pissing off congress,Federal Judges (oh can you buy them off)?
Maybe a youtube video on what happened (the rape of everybody) get actors.
Show what happened in court (the shady shit)!
Can I be in the Youtube pechanga movie? I want to be a (lawyer in the courtroom scene)if thats ok?
I am holding casting calls for the Pechanga movie,I will let you know.
(above poster)
Why do all of these casino tribes focus on maximizing monthly per capita? Why not throw all of the money into a central fund for investing and offer jobs to the tribal members at the casinos. You all can rule the planet with all of your casino money, but you all want to waste it all on material goods. I know of one local tribal member that has at least $2million worth of cars in his driveway. How many Bentleys does one person need? I'm just saying. . .
Anonymous said;
Show what happened in court (the shady shit)!
September 14, 2012 5:47 PM
As the new tradition at Pechanga is to deny, cover up, and hide behind sovereignty we of the Manuela Miranda family were denied by the highest courts of the land to have our grievances heard, so to this day there has never been a hearing by an independent impartial body.
For all new readers of this blog,
We know who we are even without all of the original documents of birth and death certificates, as well as, ribbon government documents showing lineal decent to Pablo Apis who was the leader of the Temecula Luciano Indians in the 1840s.
One thing the Pechanga tribe does not want outsiders to know is that the casino sits on land that was part of the Little Rancheria that was given to our ancestor Pablo Apis.
Before we were disenrolled the tribe held Pablo in esteem calling him a great leader of the people who led the people well. This was evident in documents from the tribe and on their official website.
Now if you go there you will not find any mention of this great man.
Pechanga has been slowly and methodically rewriting history, so as to exclude the importance of Pablo Apis as well as to blatantly disregard the claims of the Hunter clan who’s unbroken possession of an allotment and oral testimony to the legitimacy of Pauline Hunters origins.
This rewriting of history has affected the Toshiba clan who also have an allotment that their own family members who are not enrolled are not allowed to visit because of an illegal moratorium.
This is only a small portion of the corruption that has now become part of the Pechanga Nation, for there are many instances that have occurred over time.
There are lots of Tribes in this State doing exactly what is going on here with Pechanga's people. Lets go north to a small remote place with 5 members. Now if that Tribe gets Revenue Sharing Trust Fund money of $1.1 million per year from the Pechanga's casino and others why would it not go to benefit all members? Well it does not and hasn't and probably never will. See 3 of the members get benefits, one the Chairman get a salary of $120,000 per year, so does the Vice Chairman and the Secretary gets about the same the others get nothing. Then one day the first 3 feel generous and give the other 2 members a salary of $18,000 per year but then they take that away a year later for one and two years for the other just because they can. Then these two get nothing til 2009 then they take control with one of the first 3 members and a fight starts because the 2 were told by the Feds and the 1 member the Chairman was taking huge amounts of Tribal money, they use the Tribal Constitution to remove him but like always the BIA sits on their hands and wont except it and starts a federal court battle. Then two years go by and then the first 3 get back together and now they have cut the others off, the tried to enroll two non Indians and from different states, they try to dis-enroll the two on the short end not once but twice! Then the first 3 fight, and 2 of the 3 want one gone so they come to the bottom 2 and use threats and money to get them to give up their votes all to gain control. Oh and mind you the Tribal administrator gets $15,000 per month. Really!!! The sad part is their is nothing they can do, they have no right to vote because in order to stay a member they had to give that up or be kicked out and be charged criminally for getting a pay check during the federal court fight, they are still on the short end living on a small check per month while two of the others live way above the poverty level, they ousted the Chairman for taking money in large amounts when they all did it too. So now the chairman gets nothing per month. When has it ever been okay to turn on your own family let alone your own people? Why is it that gaming has created greed in every Tribe, Tribal people were never like this before they took care of each other. Why create gaming to get the Indians to live above poverty and get off welfare if only to keep some off and some left to struggle, why create a Revenue Sharing Trust Fund if only a few share and its not everyone like the word share? Why is it that for 100's of years every Native person fought to be proud of who they are and now once again like with alcohol the white man has gotten each Tribe to turn on their own for a few extra dollars. Once again white wins again and the state doesn't care they get their money one way or another IF you were in the Tribe before and it was not a mistake then the BIA should stand and say no to being dis-enrolled, every member should be treated fairly, get the same amount of money and each get health care. It sad that it keeps happening and it seems each new elected council member keeps repeating the same thing they were just made about. When will the circle stop when will every Tribal member be able to stand up and say enough is enough?? They all need to stop fight each other and fight to help each other. Something needs to be done and I know people like myself that would help if we can find a solution. My heart goes out to all the members getting shorted.
Thank you from a
non Tribal Member and concerned citizen of Northern California
Are there any tribes outside of CA that are having these disenrollment issues?
The Saginaw Chippewa in Michigan have been trying to disenroll since the 1990's but have not made any progress to date, other than enrich a lot of outside entities making money off a bunch of ignorant Indian's incapable of seeing that they are being ripped off, which of course is of their own doing. A fool and his money is soon departed.
If you type Temculapatch in your search box they have a story on disenrollment. Mark Macarro is the poster boy for corrupt Indian government.
Toshiba Family? Are they related to someone who is Japanese? Perhaps they have their own wealth through the sale of millions of Toshiba products.
I am sure the poster meant the Tosobol family, Lol!
See, the American Indian hater is on here again, with her hate.
That german woman who loves to hate American Indians & their tribes. Always finding hate where ever she can, always spewing out her nazi hate.
See, that she spreading & spewing her hate & her hating on American Indians, Straigh outta that Indian hating white trashed mulatto hating tongue. This phony faked baked claiming to be an Indian is not a Saginaw Chippewa---her name is Charmaine(charmange)Benz.(nazi last name)
From Buffalochip, Germany/South or North Africa mulatto family--not or non American. She full of buffalochipsofbullshit-n-chips. This bootlip counterfeitter hates American Indians & all that applies. She'll hop on this blogpost than spreads her Indian hate for American Indians & all geniune tribal people. She is very obessed with hating American Indians.
This phony was borned in Nazi, Germany--just like her father C. Benz. (nazi last names) Her homeland is in Nazi Germany & South or North Africa. She is a foreigner---a immigrant from Germany. She is not of the United States of America, nor an American Indian tribal, especially Saginaw Chippewa.
She is not American Indian or non Indian descent.
Her whole damned family is counterfeitted into "The Saginaw Chippewa Tribe" & all her of them are the same way American Indian haters.
The Sag. Chips. despises her & them.
These are the counterfeits in the Sag. Chip. tribe & they want them outta the Sag. Chips. sight & tribe. The counterfitting & disillutioned posers.
She is an out side agitator & a antagonist prick always looking to put a hate on the Saginaw Chippewas and all other American Indians & their tribes. She loves to hate!
She is not Indian nor is she Ameican at all.
She is a bootlip mulatto nazi.
Watch she'll get on here to spread more of her nazi hate towards American Indian---The Faux Pas like her counterparts~~~ Elizabeth Warrens & Ward Churchill.
What she really needs is a good kick in the ass & face bashed in.
A good ass kickin!
POST: Anonymous...September 16, 2012 @ 6:30 A.M.
What that got to do with the white man ripping u off, jack shit.
Where the love, playa
Just to show what u r...haggatha!
Money grabbing, is what u r after...scumbum, german geetie haired geetie fretters~~
hanging & dangling!
U krut geetie smellin fart ass, no tribal affliation nazi mulatto.
Tribal stealing thief!
jeez
charmaine b
somebody dont like you.
With all of this cat about the Miranda family, rumor has it that Andrew Miranda is the new Gamiing Commisioner for the Torres Martinez Tribe (Red Earth Casino). Any facts on the accusations and if so, how did he get licensed?
Maybe because she voted to lower the memberships percap.
I assume you are commenting to another issue? Being a licensened Gaming Commissioner of another tribe has nothing to do with percap or that persons tribe. It is all about the person. If what has been stated as fact on this site about the felonies rearding Andrew Miranda and he is in fact working for another tribe as a gaming commissioner (still confirming), how did he pass backgrounds? The facts speak for themselves, if they are in fact......the facts.
Witch Andrew the council member is son or the one that was disenfranchised. Assuming it’s the one that was disenfranchised well until he is arrested there will be no criminal record.
Andrew Miranda is working here at red earth casino... that is a fact...did he commit some crime?
It is a fact that he is working here at red earth casino...did he commit some kind of crime?
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