We wrote about this situation last month, in which an attorney, Sara Dutschke Setshwaelo, fired off a nasty cease and desist letter, followed by a reply by attorney Andrew Twietmeyer who asked for her credentials to act in Pala's interests as attorney of record. Crickets chirped, which helped lead to this lawsuit
20: Plaintiff is informed and believes, and on that basis alleges, that Defendant Smith did
not seek or obtain the approval of the United States Secretary of the Interior to hire and pay Dentons
22) Plaintiff is further informed and believes, and on that basis alleges, that most, if not
all of the attorneys fees paid to Dentons and/or DOES 11 through 20 were for legal services that
benefited Defendant Smith's individual interests in exacting retribution on PBMI political rivals;
intimidating would-be political rivals and the PBMI electorate;
23) Indeed, Mr. Pink is informed and believes, and on that basis alleges, that a substantial
portion of the attorneys fees Defendant Smith caused to be paid to Dentons and/or DOES 11-20
were for legal research, advice, and counsel to Defendant Smith on his retaliatory disenrollment of more that 160 members of the PBMI which disenrollment Defendant Smith purported to justify by brazenly and unilaterally changing a settled historical determination of the Cupeno Indian blood quantum of Margarita Britten (1856-1925).
Denton's attorney is the niece of BIA Director Amy Dutschke.... just sayin'
Here is the lawsuit:
155 comments:
This is great news ! But could Robert Smith claim immunity ? The California Supreme court recently declared criminals like this above the law.
I thought the Supreme Court just depublished, not declared anyone above the law. There were already laws on the books that kept Cosentino in the WIN column...
Awesome, what department is this assigned to in San Diego?
Good
Great work. Maybe they will finally get the notion that the 6 people who unjustly sit (and have not been sworn in) on the Executive Committee are not the General Council, the General Council is every voting member of the tribe. The EC seems to think they can do whatever they want without the approval of the General Council (The Whole Tribe), and Robert Smith has been choosing to do what he pleases for 25 years now, it needs to end. This dictator has got to go, he has destroyed the tribe and ruined the people. He has let others come in that have helped him destroy the tribe. When he goes, Pala can heal and the people can once again live and grow without oppression.
Hopefully this is a start of the walls of his castle (that he has built with the tribes money) start tumbling down.
Praying this is the start that will open all Pala members eyes and see what Robert Smith really is. This man has a deep hatred for certain families and his cruelty knows no end.
Robert has probably already forged all the necessary documents giving him permission to hire Sara D. It will be interesting to see how he forges the name of the Secretary of the Interior. Auntie Amy is probably taking care of that part of it. What's that. Amy Dutschke is retiring!!! Really, she is signing all of the fee to trust applications before she retires? Wonder if she has figured out which tribe, or not, Robert Smith represents. I hope the OIG, Kevin Washburn, the FBI, the SOI and congress are taking a close look at Amy before she rides off into the sunset (holding hands with Robert Smith). We should start a pool to see if she goes to work for Auburn or for Pala. They both have outstanding BIA retirement programs.
So and we are still paying our regular lawyers too?
"your honor, my client is a sovereign nation..."
It is very clear in this situation that it is the tribe (finally) that is the sovereign entity and not Robert Smith although he is big enough to be any nation he wants. The tribe is not being sued. The suit is for the benefit of the tribe. It is time to end the reign of terror or is that the sovereign of terror. Thank you your Honor for seeing through this masquerade of deception and corruption. What's that? You want this investigated for criminal intent as well. Possible RICO violations. Sure thing. Again, Thank you your Honor.
An audit should be done of all tribal funds to see if he paid any involved that will not be in the records they turn over. I'm sure somehow they will try and cover this up like they do everything else with a little help from thier BIA friends
violations or claims against sarah,should be made to state Bar,before she retires,or runs.
Amy is probably in her office now shredding away.....this lawsuit will have many people scrambling to cover things up and should get a lot of press. Send a copy to Dateline, 60 minutes, Anderson Cooper and any news agency you can think of. This is criminal activity is it not? Misappropriation of funds? It's just the start of his crumbling empire. Someone should be watching the books at the Casino...someone will try and get as much cash out before the shit hits the fans.
Wait a minute wait a minute now what lawyer is going to defend on this case?
Dentons is the largest law firm in the world. Do you guys really think they are just going to roll over? Of course Sara will defend the case. She has billions behind her. Money talks, the truth can walk. You all still don't know what you're up against...so sad. You lose, bye bye. Expect a counter suit shortly. Get ready to mortgage your homes and property if you really want to go the distance. In the end we win and you lose and you get nothing. Bye Bye Brittains.
Bye bye Brittains?? This case has nothing to do with the family..stop counting us as a whole. Just because 1 person from a family attacks Robert does not mean it's the entire family. Robert needs to stop punishing the wrong people because of his hatred for certain members of that family.
Hate to say it but 6:54 is right. Going against the Government?? you will never, I repeat never going to win.
Golden Rule - he who has the gold makes the rules. It's reality plain and simple. You guys need to get used to it. You are better off pooling your money to buy lottery tickets. If you hit the jack pot then maybe you might have a chance to win in the legal system. If not, meh, you lose. This is America. Those with money win. Period, end of discussion.
@6:54, ha, we already lost our homes and property, yet here we are still fighting, because it comes down to what is right, Even if we lose every fight, we still win the big one in the end, because we can go on to the creator with clean hands and straight eyes, because we did what was right for us and our ancestors.
if Pinks lawsuit works,and the EC. Still does not reenroll then the judge should shut down the casino,just like they did up North and I don't gave a ..... What the people of the ttribe think when that happens. Since the tribe did not care when the 162 were disenrolled . We will see how you guys are able to survive without your percap for a month or two. Can you gutless fools survive 4years without a check ? I am willing to bet no. You having proven that with your inaction the pass years .Dont worry you can always go back to the government cheese. Us Brittans will never give the fight ! It is better to be standing on feet then on are knees begging
You know what I'm tired of this shit everyone who wants to get even with TN or RS be at the Admin this Friday 9am!! They cannot continue to get away with this and have nobody lift a finger. Nobody I mean NOBODY is coming to the rescue. From: pissed off/fed up
Money = We Win = Always
Get used to it losers. hasn't 4 years been enough for you to get it through your thick skulls that you will always lose? Here comes Dentons to ram it down your throats. Too bad you all drank the kool aid. Was it pink in color?
This gets even more interesting. First you cowards hide behind sovereignty now you are saying you are willing to hide behind money. it is a fine admission of the fact that you are wrong, you have always been wrong and you will steal whatever amount of tribal money it takes to prove your case. Good luck with that one. Can you spell Puzz. That is Hoopa for bye bye you f/n cowards.
Ram what down our throats a MAG LIGHT.
I didn't know that Andrew worked for Dentons also.
That money belongs to the Pala people and the EC can not use it this time for their Lawyers. That's what this suit is mostly implying.RS will have to use his own money for this one. Or the money that he and Nieto have stolen from the Band.
I hope that they both go to jail.JJJJUUUSSSSTTTTIIIICCCCEEEEE.
It's only the biggest because they merged with a Chinese firm. So they have a bunch of lawyers in China....what's that have to do with breaking the law here? Keep playing tough guys...you know the fat man is sweating. Every dog has his day.
Dentons is probably still trying to figure out who the hell Sara shitswallow is and how did they get stuck with such an idiot. This is an easy one for Dentons. Robert Smith and Sara S misrepresented the status of pala to Dentons so the burden of duty will fall back on Robert and Sara. Dentons will probably testify against them in exchange for dismissal of the case against Dentons. That is what a smart law firm that has made the mistake of hiring a stupid attorney would do. Suits and LA Law 101.
6:54 is pretty snarky guess she hasn't noticed Karma working lately. Not going to mention names but less smirking faces out there now. And it's not your money it belongs to the tribe and yea Brittens are in the tribe in almost every family in Pala. So be careful who you insult.
Continue to post how money equals a win, you are digging a deeper hole by admitting the millions taken from the tribe to represent one person. How stupid can you be? Thanks for your support in proving our case! Maybe you should have used your cash to buy an education!
ha ha ha....pinks brittains going down. We got the money and power. You got nothing. ha ha ha... This lawsuit filed was the biggest mistake made yet. Just wait... We are sovereign, you are trash.
This case is not against the brittains. It's against Robert. He was using the tribes money to pay for his personal lawyer. I guess that doesn't bother you? Robert is not sovereign. The tribe is sovereign. And like I said, this is against Robert
I like how they say they are going to win because of money and power. Not because they are right or because they have proof the Brittens have both.
I told you, Robert is opening a big can of worms. He should just make a deal with the britians. Just re enroll
"He who wants everything his way every time will end up losing everything of his at ANY time." Some words of wisdom for the greedy people of the world.
10:22 PM is just a Robert Smith kronie trying to piss off the Brittains. You just don't get it. No matter what you say, no matter what you do, you are wrong that's all it is plain and simple. You are wrong! That is why you come on here and cut us down and talk your crap. We bug you because we are right and you know it. Hope it haunts you in your sleep every night, if it doesn't then you have already lost your soul. The devil laughs louder than you.
There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so. Shakespeare (hamlet)
@10:22 when you say we are sovereign you mean the Brittain's, the Magees, the Scotts, the Pinks, the Banks, the Trujillos just to name a few of the families who are descendants of Margarita Brittian and members of Pala, Right!
Man this is some straight up messed up shit of whats going on in Pala. Seems like a dictatorship communist asshole. I wouldn't worry for too long. It won't ever last. All of you good people who were wrongfully disenrolled, justice will be served and it's going to be FREAKEN SWEET!!!! The bad guy doesn't win in this story. Guarantee.
"The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool". (Shakespeare)
Wow!! and this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much theft and corruption in Pala that it will take years to sort out. We won't have to have anymore disenrollments because more that half of the pala members will be in jail with Robert Smith. Yes Robert will rat you out quicker than you can say his name. What is that clause in the revenue allocation plan? oh yes, you cannot receive per cap while in prison. That means there will be plenty of money to pay the Brittens what is owed them.
"Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?"
- Obi-Wan Kenobi
I sure wish someone would look into Robert Smith's housing scam. The first big issue is why would he charge his fellow members ridiculous prices for their homes. The average cost of a Robert Smith home on pala is twice that of a home off the reservation. There is no land cost associated with the home cost. No permit fees. No utility hook up fees and no sales taxes or other taxes or fees. So why do pala houses cost so much? Is pala a legal lending instution? Is pala licensed to offer mortgages? A pala mortgage binds you to Robert smith for 30 years. he owns you. he has the right to enter your home without permission. Robert Smith can evict you and you lose whatever equity you may have in your home. Robert Smith can decide your successor (one of his friends of course). At the end of 30 grueling years of harassment by Robert smith you own nothing. What a wonderful program.
Anonymous 10:22. Lord bless you. Not because you are good person and deserve to be blessed, but because you a complete idiot and need help. You side with a man that is using the tribes money for his benefit. You do realize if he did not use the tribes money for his personal use you would most likely get more per cap? Right?You say you have the money and the power? You don't have money and power Robert Smith has money and power because he is using YOUR MONEY You won't have shit if you keep letting this crook take what is rightfully the tribal members and not just for Robert. I commend Willy for taking a stand for what is right against this man. He knows this man is corrupt and not afraid to stand up to him like all you others who just worry about your losing per cap. Like Robert said "what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong" Eat your words Dishonorable Chairman Robert Smith. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Demand for jury trial,I like this!
Robert should not be chairman. He is involved in to many questionable activities. There are so many lawsuits that he is involved with. We need a new chairman that can bring us all together. Starting with the britian situation. Re enroll them.
So I am hearing this correctly, that PBMI members are okay with Robert Smith using their money to pay for an attorney that they didn't approve? I guess they don't mind if he uses the Band's attorney for his own legal services and pays for it with their money. Are they also happy that their Chairman is being sued by a member? Or are they just happy that they have a Chairman who is willing to use the money and power of the Band to cover up his wrongdoing?
What kind of people are these that support a Chairman like Robert Smith?
Money= satan< Jesus
So if money equals Satan and Satan is less than god then I would say your money has no power over what is right. And Jesus ❤ = brittains... You lose the biggest game here on earth...eternal life.
Please remain peaceful. Don't give Robert the upper hand and catch you outta pocket
@ 10:22 PM,
Who in the hell do you think you are calling Native Americans Trash.
You should consider yourself lucky that someone doesn't go over to your house and fuck you up, my God the nerve of this person calling people trash.
Oh and by the way your face book page just revealed who you are. And I will let everyone know who you are unless you apologize for calling people trash. you have only 1 day to do so.
There should be a emergency meeting to relieve Robert as chairman. This is a big deal. He is stealing tribal funds to pay for all his personal law suits. He has totally divided our Rez. Get him out.
10:22 is a dumbf#&k, your NOT sovereign, just because pignose Smith lies in your freaking constitution that P.B.M.I. is a federally recognized tribe doesn't make it so, the federal register tells a different story, look it up, no P.B.M.I. listed anywhere! hahaha, no federal recognition...no sovereignty. AND you undeserving cowards shouldn't even have a casino in operation.
I know of at least 15 comments that have been made by Robert Smiths daughters posting as Anonymous. However they don't realize that they are posting almost word for word on their face book accounts. And the FBI was surprised by their carelessness. So keep it up daughters, we need all the help we can get to have your Dad and Nieto locked up in Federal Prison. Thank you.
Stupid little bitches, just as dumb as their pappy
Please link the Facebook pages of RS daughters making the same comments. Share it so others can see. Don't talk about the FBI, they are worthless. They just laugh as all this crap keeps happening.
thats what millions into the F.B.I. retirement fund will do, and thats without G.C. approval or probably their knowledge of their money being spent there, hahaha. Your so called "LEADER" takes the cake along with your money.
Hey PalaRez, where are you? Did you die or something?
I was just wondering because I have to go to the bathroom and was out of toilet paper, so I was wondering if I could use your face to wipe my ass if I need it.
Another Tribal Elder has passed away to day at Pala.
Joann (LUGO) Eagleton passed away today after a long illness. Please keep her Husband George in your prayers.
She was the Mother of EC Member Theresa Nieto in Pala.
Pray that God can have mercy on her soul.
Can someone explain how he donates money into the FBI retirement fund? Isn't that a federal retirement fund? It doesn't make sense to me. I guess what you are suggesting is that the FBI isn't invstigating because they get paid not to? I can see it with the BI.A, but not the FBI.
Donate through our secure web site or by check. Make checks for the Membership Assistance Fund payable to FBIAA, MAF. Make checks for the Memorial College Fund payable to FBIAA, MCF. Mail to PO Box 320215 Alexandria, VA 22320.
This is why we need an AUDIT people. WAKE UP AND MOTION FOR AN AUDIT.
10:22PM is Robert Smiths daughter, just tap into face book and check it out.
What's her name
10:22 pm is Roberts daughter. for sure.
Smiths kids are Brittains
Any and all documents that come from the Regional Office in Sac. should be verified by the Sec. of Interior for truth and not fabricated lies by Amy D.
In Reply to 5:09 PM, not as far as Robert Smith is concerned.
Wasn't the lot where his daughters house is built on assigned to another Tribal Member. And not his Daughter.
@4:30 PM ones name is Kathrine, and ones name is Lorraine i'm not sure of the spelling so you can play with it or? They also call one of them Beano. Also not sure if the first one is spelt with a C or K.
Hope this helps.
How sad that she feels this way. It is sad that she does not know that side of the family because Alice passed away way too young, heartbraking, and she did not know Her great Grandmother(Great Aunt) Vivienne, both were so wonderful and loving to family. They would have been so upset over all of this. I do not think they are smiling down on them right now, but I do know that they would have loved their grandkids and great grandkids so much. It used to be so different, even though they were very poor, it was always home, family, and love.
The above is a great post!!!
We are giving a deadline to the EC of Pala of November 1st 2015, to reinstate the Pala members. Robert Smith,Theresa Nieto,Howard Maxcy,Dion Perez,Theressa Villa and Sheila (Smith) Lopez as Executive Council you have 22 days to fix your mistake and take another look at the Margarita Brittain blood degree. You have the power to end this or continue fighting the rest of your days as leaders of the Pala Band.
Vivian Banks was one of the fighters to prove that her Grandmother MB was indeed a full blood cupa.I have never known anyone that would fight for something so hard for something that she truly believed was the truth.
If Vivian thought that for one second that Margarita was anything but full blooded cupa , she would have not pushed the way that she did, to prove that MB was full.
She (Vivian was the most HONEST women that ever walked the Lands of the Pala Reservation. And to have her memory and all the work that she endured to prove that her Grandmother was full Cupa flushed down the toilet is a damn shame.
What kind of people are they that say that her word is nothing.
Every living person on this Reservation knew the way Vivian Banks was and what she stood for. And that is honor above all, and would never ever tell so much as a little white lie for anyone. Not even her own.
And that's why I get so upset with the way that people say things like MB was only 1/2 cupa. If Vivian thought that she was only half (MB)she would have left things as they were. And all she did was help prove that MB was full blooded Cupa. Her word and all the Documents posted here are good enough for everyone except for those that are Corrupt and greedy. Grow up EC and face the facts concerning the Britten issue, because we now that she was as Documented 4/4=full.
Very nice post for our Ancestors 9:10 pm.
Even Fernando Ortega acknowledged that P. Ortega was the Father of Margarita Britten, and his kids Eric and Angelia Ortega know what he said about it, and I don't understand why they don't stand up for their own people.
It will come back on them someday, just mark my words.
The crooked tribal leaders may have succeeded in getting Consentino depublished but the fact remains that the court did recognize that if tribal leaders act out of their capacity they are not protected by sovereignty. Publication of a similar case will probably happen soon anyways. It will sure clear the path for tribes to begin prosecuting tribal leaders who have been hiding behind sovereignty when sovereignty is the right of the tribe not criminals.
Your right about Vivian banks. She will always be remembered as a honest woman. She told the truth. I remember when she proved margaretta owlunguish blood line. I remember the look on her face. Its sad how some of her own family (won't mention names) refuse to accept the truth and ran to the money.
Yeah, they are literally calling her a liar. Their direct flesh and blood, they are slapping her in the face. How sad to have your own descendants do that to you and your fight. She went through so much to take care of her family, she suffered greatly but still held her head high and made sure her family's truth was known and now her own grandchildren are letting her legacy and hard work seem worthless, but we know what she did and we will not let it be downplayed. We know the truth and we will not throw a blind eye to it even if they choose to be spiteful, hateful, and greedy.
As far as Eric and Angelia Ortega goes they belong in Rincon and they know this and that's why they don't say anything. They are afraid to loose their status of being real cupeno, and getting a per capita check every month.
This is true. I think everyone that is enrolled in your tribe at Pala should prove your ancestors were from kupa. There would only be 2 or 3 family's to remain in the tribe. Sad sad sad. Owlunguish family descendent would be one to remain at Pala. They have the blood. Sorry outsiders go home.
I think that the Federal Court System is going to place some tough sanctions on the Pala Executive Committee for not making some sort action concerning the illegal disenrollments of the Britten Family.
If Robert (Fat Ass) Smith was looking to punish King Freeman and Willy Pink, then why have they not put the others back on the Pala Rolls.Is it because they would have to admit that they were wrong in the first place.
Robert Smith has proven nothing as to the blood degree of MB. So as far as the United States Government is concerned ,MB is still 4/4=full blooded cupa indian.
That's why I think that the Federal Courts will see through the Scams of the EC and will advise the BIA to enforce its 1989 final decision as to the findings of an Investigation into the Father of MB.
If the BIA and the Pala EC refuse to obey a Federal Court Order, then they are going to be held in contempt of a Federal Order and that something that the Pala Band does not need. Because that will hurt the Band as far as Tribal Sovereignty is concerned.
But if that's what they want then so be it. It will for sure open the Tribe up for more losses in the court system for farther decisions to be made, trying to use Sovereignty as a shield.
@5:36 PM wasn't Eric Ortega Garcia kicked out of Arizona and told never to return for molesting a 6 year old little boy.
And to think that Robert Smith was giving him the support of the Band when Eric was running for School Board Member.
Sick fuckers.
Ya, Eric is nothing but an ass kisser. He would do anything that is asked of him by RS.I an guessing here, but maybe the reason that Eric likes to hang around RS is because RS is Chief Little PePe. And Eric thinks of him as a little boy.
R&R
You want the government to step in and protect your rights but don't want the same to control you.
Be careful of what you ask for.
You walk the rocky path.
Seminole
GET those two Ortega imposters out of here and send them back to where they belong in Garciaville.
Did I say that? I was asking Pala members if they thought having money and power makes it okay to break the law.
Really though the government has certain responsibilities to Indians that it must perform. The Feds have failed. The disenrollees have disenfranchised, and the Feds allow corrupt leaders determine who is Indian. Not that I want the Feds to make the call either.
There is a way to manage the separation of sovereign duties, and it doesn't involve supporting corrupt leaders that violate tribal law.
Be careful how you talk about your new vice chairman (Eric Ortega), yeah the Morongo experiment is winding down, Robert got what he wanted out of them and in the process exposed their imposter lineage. Now as "chairman of the old pala luiseno" Robert needs luiseno's on the E.C. So out with Morongo Howard and in with Rincon Luiseno Eric Ortega, no drop off in smarts, their both dumb. Out with neutered Theresa Villa and in with old pala luiseno Nona Scott, another R.S. nut licker, remember the previous post SELECTIONS not ELECTIONS.
There is no fucking way that Eric Ortega GARCIA could vice.
He is not popular enough to get the local votes of Members.
Plus if he dares to run, the background check will kill it for him being a child molester.
We still think that Mr. Trujillo sr. should run for Vice Chairman.
He would be for the Members with no hidden agenda. And that's what the Band needs, a fresh start. My family and most of my Friends will vote for him.
We still think that Mr. Trujillo sr. should run for Vice Chairman.
He would be for the Members with no hidden agenda. And that's what the Band needs, a fresh start. My family and most of my Friends will vote for him.
Yes Mr. Trujillo SR. please run for Vice Chairman. You should be able to win by a landslide of votes. All the years that we have watched you
grow up on the Reservation, we know that you would do a great job for the whole Tribe, and would fight hard for what is right for everyone and not just a few.
Pete is probably a tad to smart, If you haven't noticed Robert surrounds himself with ignorance, people who are dumb and with no education. Also, you have to be non cupeno, that way he can hold your lack of blood to be enrolled over your head and get you to do his bidding, right Lugo descendents? Yeah he will allow 1 warner ranch decendent on board to make you all feel that person will make a difference but we've all seen what Leroy, and Villa have done...nada. Rember people its not a election its little Hitler's selection, your votes mean nothing, always have, and it will continue until You take him out at a meeting by a show of hands vote. JUST RECALL THE BASTARD ALREADY!
He has turned a once model and proud Reservation into a laughing stock. Other reservations see P.B.M.I. members as weak. Sorry, but that's the truth.
If the Members will support me if I run for Vice Chairman, then I would do it for the Members of the Band. I have no hidden agenda, and I would do the job and be fair with all members. So if you are willing to back me and if I am nominated then we will see.
Thank you for your support.
Respectfully Posted by,
Peter Trujillo sr.
Nominate Peter F. Trujillo sr. for Vice Chairman at the meeting @ 7pm
tonight. And don't be afraid to back him up.
@ 5:14 why didn't you nominate him last night. All talk talk talk just like the rest of people on this blog.
After all the years that you have known Pete and it looks like you are the only one that took the bait palarez. Bet you were sweating it too. Look on your face - PRICELESS
Why didn't Pete T. Run for office?? Things at Pala are never gonna change if people just talk and don't act!! Everyone else running for council just wants to be on the EC for the perks and buy offs. I thought Pete really wanted to make a difference for Pala. If you can't beat them join them (right Kilma) and enjoy the free travel and comps!
Don't blame Pete. The elections are fixed.The Pala EC discriminates against Britten descendants. It is difficult to muster support when open communication is discouraged . It is impossible to conduct a campaign for office in Pala on Original Pechanga blog.
Face it Pala members. You will have to unite and work together for change if that is what you want.
I sat and waited to be nominated last night at the meeting but I guess no one wanted to openly nominate me.
So now what, where are all the supporters that asked me to run for the EC.I believe that I could have done a better job than the two who are running for the Vice Chairman seat. But I guess the people really don't want change for the Reservation. It will come back to haunt you.
I was willing to give it my best shot, and I thought that I had enough support to do so, but I was wrong.
However I will not give up, and will try again next year.
There are so many things that need fixing on the Reservation and if they are not, then it will get worse than ever.
Respectfully Posted By
Peter F. Trujillo sr.
Maybe go as a write in. You still would get a lot of votes.
I have thought about it, but it won't work because I don't access to the outside voters addresses. So that in it self would make it impossible to win.
Posted by Peter F. Trujillo sr.
If you arent going to stand up for what you believe is right, than dont complain. That simple. Robert Smiths Tribe, Casino, Private Jet, Ranch, Interactive and whatever else he wants. Enjoy your cut Pala SMH
EVERY TRIBAL MEMBER NEEDS TO USE THEIR BRAIN WHEN THEY VOTE.
ERIC ORTEGA IS A FAKE AND HAS NO CUPA BLOOD AS HE SAYS, AND NIETHER DOES HIS SISTER ANGELIA.
ERIC'S REAL FATHER IS SALVESTER GARCIA FROM RINCON, AND ANGELIA'S FATHER IS SALVESTERS BROTHER, JEROME GARCIA FROM RINCON.
FERNANDO ORTEGA COULD NOT HAVE KIDS AND EVERYONE IS FULLY AWARE OF THIS. THAT WHY HE LOST HIS FIRST WIFE WHO WAS FROM A RICH FAMILY IN THE PRODUCE BUSINESS AT THAT TIME ON ELVIRA ST. IN LOS ANGLES.
HIS WIFE WANTED CHILDREN AND FERNANDO COULD NOT PRODUCE BECAUSE HE WAS STERILE.
HE CLAIMED ANGLIA AND ERIC AS HIS BECAUSE HIS GIRL FRIEND SAID SO.
HE HOWEVER KNEW THAT THEY WEREN'T HIS BUT LET THEM BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE. DON'T BE FOOLED BY THESE 2 GARCIA /ORTEGA IMPOSTERS.
AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE TRIBE AND ALL THE MEMBERS DO NOT VOTE FOR ERIC FOR VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS.HE IS A FAKE AND HAS NO CUPA BLOOD DEGREE.
R&R is so predictable. Pete said I sat and no one nominated me. R&R immediately jumped to "the elections are fixed". You have to be nominated in order to have the election fixed. Is that right R&R? The point is no one nominated Pete, not the fix is in. R&R prefers to be Mr. negative to anything.
Don't cite the fact that you believe the elections from the past were fixed and this one would have been. How can you prove 100% that the elections are fixed. You just hope to stir up people.
Apparently no one on this blog went to the meeting and/or had the courage to nominate Pete. He was there looking for the one brave person who had the courage to put his hat in the ring. Apparently there was not just one brave person to support him. You are sad.
Sad state of affairs. Pete is a man of courage and put his future at risk but yet not one of the tough blogger/talkers on the blog would do that same.
Allegations of fixed elections can only be dispelled by independent monitors verifying the procedures, and that the procedures have been followed.
I didn't know that Pete was not nominated until he said so in his comments. I think it would be good to get people stirred up. However, probably about 1% of Pala members read this blog. That is about 10 people in case your math is bad. Not really much to stir.
Another reason that I can not go as a write in is because of the required back ground check for all those that are nominated. If this is not done according to Robert, then your name can bot be placed on the ballot. I am guessing that this applies to all incumbents also.
Respectfully Posted
Pete Trujillo SR.
EC has 17 days....
Don't worry Pete, we will continue our fight and we will eventually win, for our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and great-great-grandparents, and especially our descendants. This is not the end of us, this is the beginning, because the fox is getting more and more pressure and his hole will no longer keep him from being discovered. Robert has been mean enough to our family and the time is coming for things to turn positive for us and for him to be punished for his evilness.
What does Sara Dicts Sheswaloes think about all of this?
Who gives a rats ass what Sara Shitwater thinks. She should be concentrating on signing up for food stamps and Tanif.
OK then I will run for Vice as a write in.
Can someone spread the word as I can not campaign because of the back ground check.
Lets see all the supporters come out and help do this.
If we pull this off, I believe it will be a first for Pala.
Respectfully Posted by
Peter Trujillo sr.
Respectfully Peter Trujillo Sr. - When was the last time you saw a tally for write in candidates. They use write-ins as an excuse to spoil a ballot which means that not only does your vote not count but the votes for the other two candidates do not count either. This could easily throw the election right in to Robert's lap. So before you decide to run as a write-in please consider that you might be causing other candidate votes to be thrown away. Thank you.
Funny how everyone still trying too play by the rules...its a rigged game even if rob was out he wouldnt leave office and everyone would still sit back and do nothing. So stand up and be a TRIBE for once and stand together! You need too realize rob is nothing just a person in a the seat of chairman! Imagine your tribe working together and not having too post as anonymous on a blog just because your scared of what rob might do too you or your family...beleive me its greener on the other side ALOT greener ...time for some change, hes been a great leader (before the money) but now time for someone elses ideas too take you guys too higher grounds.
It's better than having a child molester for Vice Chairman.
And for The sake of our Children get this fake cupa indian off of the School Board. Talking about Eric Ortega Garcia.
TO MANY CHIEFS AND NOT ENOUGH INDIANS.
Eric Ortega's first act as Vice-Chairman will be to make a motion to disenroll members of the Lugo family. Smith got all the mileage he needed out of their support and now he will take their per capita just like he did to the Britten descendants. That is what Pala members are voting for.This is a shift in power as Smith demonstrates how he rewards
loyalty. It doesn't help that Maxcy has been playing with the boss's daughter. No way to keep these things secret in Pala.
OH BOY, SO HOWARD HAS BEEN DIPPING HIS PEN IN THE COMPANY INK.
You are a bad boy Mr. Maxcey Pad.
And it's all your fault, trying to be a bad ass when we all know that you are just another Smith Puppet.
Sorry I meant to say" another one of your soon to be Father in Laws puppets.
Do you think that he will change his name to HOWIE SMITH.
Might as well, being how he is disgracing the Maxcey name.
Who nominated Eric?
@6:04PM
I believe it was Leco that nominated Eric.
Shit Howard, do you really like that German pie?
You know what's really sad is that the Pala Members all know that Eric and Angelia do belong in Rincon, and why they don't speak up and do something about it is not good for the people in Pala.
It's like giving approval for non Cupa Blood to be a Member of the Band. It just does not sit right with me. Look at the Britten's, Look at all the Documents that prove that they belong in the Band, and the EC turns the other way when it comes to these fake Cupeno Indians.And
welcomes them with open arms.
You People better take a real good look at what is happening on your Reservation and take a stand to correct it or loose it.
It is not right to keep out real descendants and allow fake ones to be enrolled.
I'm just a nobody and don't really know how this indian stuff works, but couldn't the 1/16 brittians get legally adopted by one of there 1/4 elders? That way they could get re enrolled through the adoption? I think you can get adopted as an adult.
@ 7:15
The 1/16 that the disenrolled Britten family has is enough for enrollment in the Band. However the Executive Committee Members refuse to except the Government Documents that prove this fact. The Federal Government has recommended that the EC re-enroll the Britten Family Members but sour feelings on the part of the EC against some Britten Family Members is stopping the reenrollment of these members.
So it's not that they don't have the blood degree, because they do, 100%.
@ 7:15 PM
You say that you are a nobody.
Are you on the EC?
If you are not on the EC, then you are somebody.
Adoption is a way to get enrolled, but Robert and the Enrollment Committee have to approve it, he would never approve the adoptions, we did think about this option but also appreciate your thoughts. You never know, someone may come up with a miracle idea that was not approached before. We have tried to look at this from so many angles, we keep getting shut down. Having lots of money to back you up is a powerful thing, there are open hands all over the place that have no problem turning a blind eye on the situation, not to mention the fact that these people are told the disenrollees are violent troublemakers, so outsiders think they are helping the tribe getting rid of troublemakers, they are never told the truth. Plus outsiders think that since Robert is the Chairman and he is voted in (illegally) he must represent the tribe. He has become the tribe, the members no longer have any control over certain parts of their tribal affairs, he handles everything along with Teresa, the instigator. Hopefully this huge mess will get cleaned up soon, before the Casino is shut down by the feds for an audit and the EPA for the sewage problem, in fact if the EPA were really true to the environment and protecting it they would have been looking into this problem and into the discarded chemicals from the Meth Labs there and other weird trash thrown from cars into the bushes. But we all know who the head of the EPA is out in Pala, and she will never do that part of the job, because she only cares about her pocket linings, oh and her status as Robert's special friend. not the environment.
The Pala EPA Director is not qualified for the position. She is an anthropologist by education and an educator by profession. Yet another of the shady deals made by Chairman Smith got her the job. She is also the Tribal Historic Preservation Officer. That must be a tough job in a Band bent on destroying its history.
Can't wait to get her out and clean up the mess she has made. Her office's newsletter was just pathetic. Did more harm to the environment by using up resources, then helping it.
A PhD holder put that together? Embarrassing.
WHATEVER YOU PALA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS DO, DO NOT VOTE FOR ERIC GARCIA/ORTEGA FOR VICE CHAIR.HE IS A CHILD MOLESTER AND IS FROM RINCON.
THE PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY WANT TO UP THE PALA RESERVATION, SO VOTE FOR SOMEONE FROM HERE AND STOP THIS BULLSHIT IN ITS TRACKS.
ROBERT WANTS ERIC AS VICE BECAUSE HOWARS IS BRINGING TO MUCH HEAT TO SMITH AND HE NO LONGER NEEDS HOWARD FOR ANYTHING.SO NOW HE RECUITS A NEW PUPPET WITH ALL THE STRINGS NEEDED TO MAKE ANOTHER MAJOR CHANGE IN PALA WITHOUT THE GENERAL COUNCIL APPROVAL.AND IF YOU VOTE FOR ERIC YOU ARE PLAYING RIGHT INTO SMITHS HANDS.
STAND UP AND BE FREE.USE YOUR BRAINS WHEN VOTING.
@ 4:32 Said by a Lugo.
What's the difference between Eric and Howard? Maxcy followers Robert too. Problem is the weak,greedy people some of which are not even descendants of Warner ranch are fighting over being on the EC and Roberts puppet to get the perks of the job and keeping themselves enrolled. They know if true leaders who cared about the rights and laws of Pala and not their own agenda they might be out and the truth will be told they do not meet the criteria to be enrolled. The council should be 1 person from each family so every family has representation. Isn't that what the 11 had until Rob took away their rights. They had the right idea especially with "THE AUDIT" no choice is a good choice and Robert chooses who sits on the EC everyone knows that. I thought Maxcy was a good guy and was gonna do right for Pala but he turned out to be just like the rest, seduced with the money and perks that Robert gives to be on his side and against the good of the people. Real Native they are, just a crooked and greedy as the rest.
I am britian and I don't want any other families dis enrolled. It is a horrible experience and I would not wish it on my worst enemy. I really wish the EC would just end the feuding and re enroll.
Who else is running for Vice Chairman? Or do we HAVE to choose between
these two NON CUPA BLOOD to run our business.
These were the only 2 that were nominated at the meeting,but I did hear that Pete Trujillo sr. is running as a write-in.
I will probably vote for Pete, he is a better choice for the Tribe, and we all know that he is from Pala.
Voting for Peter sr. is a no brainer. He will represent the people of Pala a lot better than the two that were nominated.
Yes, get the people to vote for Pete sr.
Okay Pala ,we had a little dinner tonight at the casino with my enrolled family members and a few friend of ours. We talked about the coming elections and have decided that all of my family members are on board and will be voting for Mr. Peter Trujillo sr.
We firmly believe that he will do a better job for Pala than Maxcey has and for sure will be a better choice than Eric Garcia Ortega.
All the rumors as to Eric's blood are true and they should be in Rincon legally. So that in it self changed mine and my families mind as to who would be better suited for Vice Chairman, and that would be
Pete SR. We think that he would listen to the General Membership with an open mind and heart. This is what our Tribe needs for sure.
So if any one ask us our thoughts this is what we are going to tell them. Vote for Pete Trujillo sr. for Vice.
Good Luck Mr. Trujillo sr.
Who cares non of you even had the balls to nominate him.
@ PALAREZ, What do you mean "who cares"?
We Tribal Members Care.
And that's why we are going to put Mr. Trujillo sr. in office.
We need to have real and true cupeno Indians on our EC.
And we do not support anyone that's been involved or accused of being a child molester or any imposters.
We do however support true cupeno Indians in our Tribe.
So that being said, take another look around and see how many fake cupeno people are claiming to be real Cupa Warners Indians.
2:52 AM (the bar just closed). Why would anyone ask you your thoughts? They mean nothing in the election.
According to R&R only 1% of Pala's true members read this blog. So you are only talking to 1% of the tribe, good luck getting someone elected.
Why do most of the postings come from your supporters after the bar closes???
@ October 22,
Is that where you were.
You may be right but it's worth trying instead of letting it go and have to deal with the outcome later.
This Tribe needs a chance to heal, and by putting some one that does not belong is not a good start for a healing process.
So that's why we are pushing for Peter to run as a write in.
Has anyone even talked to Pete sr.is he willing to run or are you all just assuming that he will run as a write in?
His opinion does count.
Someone should really go over and talk with him and see what he thinks.
@7:18, yes Pete has come on the blog and said he would run as a write in since no one nominated him. He said that he waited for a nomination, but no one did it, they were probably out-yelled or just too scared. Pete really cares about the tribe and if you read through previous posts you can read Pete's own words.
If you look at the financials that were given out at the meetings concerning the budget you will see in the budget that there was a lot of money paid that was marked only as LEGAL FEES, that's probably what it is for, Dentons. It's on both budgets for the last couple of years, and it only says "For Legal Fee's".
At least we know that Pete is not A, Yes Mr. Chairman kind of man and he would not just vote on something just because the rest of the EC voted a certain way on things. We believe that he will listen to the General Membership and decide which way to vote for things that are important for the entire Tribe. This is something that the Pala People need to began the healing process.
Mr. Trujillo has posted a statement as to his running for Vice in the post under the history of Pala post above.
Those of you that want to vote for Pete will have to remember that he is running as a write in. Therefore you will have to print his name on the space on the ballot that says write in or the extra space that should be provided on the ballot. His name will have to be spelt the right way so no one can dispute the vote.So if you are going to vote for him it will probably be better if you write his name down as follows and print it like this on the ballot. Peter F. Trujillo sr. and don't forget to put the check mark or the x which ever the ballot requires.
Good news Mr.Pink, could you some how let us know when this suit will be heard in the Courts and what department.
Can't wait to see what happens.
Another problem with the new homes that Robert is charging twice as much for is, say that you paid on you home for 20 years, and then you passed away for whatever reason, and you were the one that the home was given to and it's on a Tribal assignment and no one else in you household is a Tribal Member. Robert and his bunch can kick you spouse out of the home that you paid for because their is no Tribal Members living at the home. So your husband/wife and your kids will have to leave their home, Paid for or not. And that is just so fucked up.
Sorry but I have to go ready for work and will post more latter on today.
One of Eric's old buddy's said that there is a lot of talk about the dis-enrollments that are coming soon.
He says that even though he is friends with Eric he think that Eric is going to motion to dis-enroll the Lugo Family.
That's pretty fucked up for Eric to make such a statement at this time, even though we already new that this was a possibility if Eric was to win, because Eric has to much to lose if he doesn't listen to what Robert wants.
According to the next meeting agenda the EC wants the band to give them permission to do some more harm to the Tribe by wanting the GC to give authority to the EC to banish and kick even Tribal Members off the Reservation without getting permission from the General Membership. They want to amend the so called constitution to give them that authority. If the members are smart they will not do this because will not be a good move because we all know how the EC operates and they will use this to dis enroll other families that they want gone. Please use your HEARTS on this one Members, there is nothing wrong with the way it is now, the General Membership SHOULD be the ones to have the say about this issue.
There are only a few things left that the General Membership has the say in, so vote it down or take the chance that the EC does not like you the will use this to get rid of you.FOR SURE. NO DOUBT.VOTE NO.
And approving the lawyers after they have already been working. Didn't they even bother reading the Constitution and advising the chairman of the proper procedure. Idiots. Other ECs and tribal councils have had to follow the Constitution, why doesn't this one have to.
Why do we need all these lawyers? What do they do and how much does it cost? I got to wonder if they all work for Pala or for Robert. Can't vote without knowing these things. Also we should be able to say yes or no to each one and not have this one size fits all B.S..
The Pala government is irretrievably broken, that Constitution aint worth the paper its written on. Thats all due to robert smith brand of government, he makes it up as he goes. AND its all sanctioned by the BIA, they turn their heads while that idiot makes all these bad choices for the tribe in the name of sovereignty.
HOW ABOUT THIS. VOTE NO ON THE ATTORNEYS LIST AND VOTE YES REMOVE ROBERT SMITH FROM OFFICE.
Then Robert is admitting that the tribe did not hire Denton and anything that Sara has been involved in with the tribe should be null and void, and Denton should return all fees paid to them by the tribe.
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