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| Nooksack Tribal Chair Bob Kelly |
I went to the Nooksack Tribal Council meeting and left feeling quite low---and morally clobbered.
Then I realized we did not lose at all. Truth and justice can not prevail in a lawless system. The open nature of the meeting was a deception, and Kelly arbitrarily decided who could speak, and on what terms.(his terms) The terms were not fair , and he applied different standards and procedures to different members.
The Chairmen opened the floor and asked for questions of the membership, and he then recognized Sat's right to speak. Kelly did not like what Saturnino was saying, and he declared the floor closed. He then told Sat he was being disruptive, and then he kicked him out.
One can not win when the rules our constantly being broken and changed mid stream. Chairmen Kelly used his position as meeting facilitator to silence any independent views ,under threat of police escorted expulsion.
Sat, I am proud of you. You stood and spoke your heart respectfully. The fact that he expelled you only proves his rule is based on banana republic thuggery.
Chairmen Kelly did not win, he cheated. He did not let us speak because his positions are not defensible in the light of day.Sat and I were nothing but respectful , and Kelly was rude and condescending to both of us.
Carmen you are awesome , and I love you. You stood and did what you thought was right and fought for the kids. You did not achieve the outcome you desired , but you shall always have the peoples respect for your hard work, dedication, and pursuit of justice.
To the people of Nooksack, we love you all. We pray that we shall all come together and meet at the table of brotherhood and unity. It is all of our hopes that we can come together and end this madness. To the people of Nooksack, I asked you all to say a prayer for all of us, because their can be no winners in this cultural genocide.
We say that the children are our future, if this is true than what kind of leadership skills are we teaching them. We should not be teaching them to hate, and to discriminate against family. If we do not teach them honesty and integrity then what kind of future leaders can we hope for?
I go away from this meeting a little dis-heartened, however, I am a believer in the goodness of the Nooksack people. Tomorrow will be a better day and I hope and pray that all Nooksack people will come and stand together as one people.
I am not hating on anyone. I love the council and everyone equally, but I just had to share my feelings in a good way.
75 comments:
Good thing Cuevas doesn't make money from this site, because he would be broke. Looks like its losing steam. Going downhill fast. Too Bad , so sad.
Did the 306 ever tell the real story?!? Just how are they Nooksack??? They are being offered a hearing to present to the Nooksack tribe exactly how they "belong"! They are appealing that...... Why don't they just have their hearing and explain how they think they are entitled to membership??? Could it be the group that so adamantly says they belong, actually does not belong being enrolled in Nooksack at all!!?? Quit telling lies and let the truth set you free! These people aren't from Nooksack! Check their family tree... They are a drug gang who's only interests in the tribe is to hold status for benefits and border crossing to smuggle drugs! They belong somewhere..... Just not in Nooksack!! If y'all feel bad for them, maybe you should pity them and enroll them in your tribe!! Maybe then you'll see why we don't them here!! They've contributed nothing but negative to our community.... Please just leave so we can begin our healing process and get over the damage the 306 have caused our people!!
-Proud Nooksack and direct descendant of this land
Nooksacks Allege Filipino Family Has Conquered Tribe From Inside
http://articles.latimes.com/2000/oct/15/local/me-36765
If it was up to the People of Nooksack the Rabangs, Rapada, Narte, 306, would have been disenrolled! When our elders tried to correct the mistake their lives were threatened at gun point!!! Why do they think their oral history is more important than ours? Our elder have always said they do not belong here. They do not have land here, none of their ancestors are burried here. They belong in SKWAY!
I find this a bit disturbing that you ask us 5o present our ancestry at a hearing. Based on the council meeting last night, our hearing would not be fair. The council has never wanted to listen, they have their own agenda and they have run the Noksack tribe to the ground. Bob Kelley uses propaganda to try and persuade the membership. This is cultural genocide. We Belong!
NOOKSACK 306 We BeLoNg
#70 lloyd Belmont ...
Look at it like this.....
These so called "we belong" and "306" right now have the opportunity right in front of them to prove they are Nooksack!!! But, instead of simply doing that and having their hearing to present their case, they are trying to fight the process of being dis enrolled!
They are trying to appeal everything.... Which is ultimately just giving them more time to be enrolled. Why? So they can vote in tribal elections....!!! Why? So they can try to take over the tribe! Why? Because they are greedy!! They are full of lies and hate! They are trying to steal something that does not belong to them!!! And that is to be Nooksack! They are not Nooksack... If they are then why can't they just attend the hearing, present their case and let this be done? It really is that simple! If you're Nooksack prove it! If you're Nooksack you wouldn't be fighting you're own people hating and telling lies and dragging on this heartbreaking battle!!! Just take your hearing and prove it!! What are you afraid of?!?? That the truth will reveal that in fact you are not Nooksack!!
-idle no more
#nooksacktruth
why wouldn't you want a hearing? Wouldn't all you have to do at this hearing is present your documents. If you meet the same criteria as the other what 5,000 plus tribal members meet, (criteria as stated in the constitution) then you have proven you truly belong. I think your own (the 306) are sending out the message that you are not enrollable because you wont have the hearing because maybe you don't have the documentation to meet the enrollment criteria? Also through the stalling tactics, is becoming evident you may not have the documentation because you keep dragging this on. But it is becoming more evident that you are having a hard time proving enrollment by posting hate messages for the vulnerable public in hopes they follow you. Why don't you prove your council or the "Kelly Faction" wrong by having that hearing and providing that documentation rather than badger the chairman for protecting his Tribe and people of what is rightfully theirs. It all seems like a matter of choice, drag this on and on or just provide the documentation. Focus your energy on providing the documentation and get this over and done with. Yes you do belong. Please ask for that hearing and prove it.
I am not Nooksack but have worked closely within the tribe. I just have to commend the current council and the real Nooksacks for their bravery and fighting for what is rightfully theirs. This has been a long time coming and I hope they keep up the fight. I remember the early 90's the fear that they put into the real Nooksacks by locking the council in chambers threatening them with guns and threats to "bite their ears off" if they disenrolled them.Talks of disenrolling them is not a new thing, they have been behind doors talking about it for YEARS! But for fear of violence and death threats, did not bring it up anymore. You want to talk about "Dictator"? Talk to the REAL Nooksacks during the Narz administration. Let them tell you how he abused the system, how the Rabangs could not be fired for fear of repercussion. They were the worst employees, they ruled the roost and we could not do anything about it. Let them tell you how Narz had all upper management in his pocket and anyone not conforming was fired on the spot. That family is a mob family. Another disturbing incident when the Toys for Tots drive went on, who were the ones that had access to the toys during the night FIRST before the REAL Nooksacks? You guessed it..Isn't "Sat" one of the kingpins during the drug raid where they had a cache full of firearms and had an Army tank plowing through the Rez to try to catch him? Didn't he serve years only to get out to deal more drugs in the community? They are just getting what they deserve..it's been a LOONG time coming and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Nooksack Tribal Council and REAL Nooksacks, keep fighting for what's yours!
The Rabangs all of a sudden want to stand up and speak up for so called rights? They sure weren't fighting for the suppressed real Nooksacks that they put down and kept down all these years. They sure weren't speaking up and denying all the bonuses and benefits they used to get. They sure weren't fighting for their right to use their DUAL enrollment with the Skway tribe in Canada to run drugs back and forth. No they don't belong, if they think they do, why haven't they proved it by now? Where's the article that shows the documentation that they are Nooksack. That's right, it would have been published by now. If they belong, all you naysayers..ask yourself this..why is it that NO Rabang has land in Nooksack and why is it that NO Rabang is buried in Nooksack? It's because they are from Canada! That's right, what could Sat possibly say that we want to hear? He's done nothing but have part in destroying our tribe. So what he got kicked out, at least we didn't pull guns and threaten to bite his ears off like the Rabangs did to us.
^^^^That;s funny you say that. Isn't Bobs ear bit off at the tip? And I think it was by a Rabang if I recall! Not funny but what a coincidence. Go Bob!
"cultural genocide"? are you serious? Tell me and the real cultural people of the tribe when was the last time the 306 family has ever been to a pow-wow. When was the last time we've ever seen any of you with a drum in your hand (besides being fakes in front of a camera walking down Seattle streets singing stolen family songs, frankly we were shocked, amazed and a little bit amused)). When was the last time we've ever seen any of you take part in any of our proud cultural activities? When have we ever seen you dressed in beautiful regalia dancing at our pow wows? NEVER! It takes a lot more to be cultural than just selling adobo at our gatherings. You all are ridiculous and silly. Lets just be straight up..If you were Nooksack, you would have proven it immediately just like I can. Why hasn't this been done? Where are the headlines "306 PROVES MEMBERSHIP!" It's been what 3 years? I can prove mine right now immediately, WHY CAN'T YOU?
Thank you!!! They don't have prooof!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All this hate just because the Chairman does not respect ALL Tribal members. The same Chairman that has the same history as the family he is trying to disenroll, but the only difference is that this family does and always will have Nooksack Blood running through their veins! He will never be able to claim that. He continues to Brainwash all those that will listen to say that this family is lying and spreading rumors. The others that are talking on here are the ones draining the Tribe of funds now, but when the prior Chairman was in charge at least ALL FAMILIES were working and able to take of their families. Everyone was considered for a job if they needed/wanted one. Grants were executed properly and none were lost, homes and business built. What can Bob take credit for? Disenrollment and reducing the number of Indians in the USA, doing the work of the government, spreading hate and dividing a community. Comments speak of past behavior and if past behavior should be held against people then someone should ask Bob Kelly if his past should be brought out and discuss publically. There are a couple others on Council that should take real good look in the mirror before casting stones about past behavior, nobody is perfect and should not pass judgment without facts. The article referenced is 15 years old and the ONE meeting that keeps being mentioned was over 10 years ago and it was not this family that had the guns. Every large family has a few with a past but disenrollment should never be used a disciplinary measure. As to the meetings to show proof have been requested to meet with the council but have not been honored and even so this Council has dead hate for this family and will stop at nothing to change the rules and ordinances to make it happen, their actions prove that. Comments about being from Canada, ask yourself where that originates from? The government once again for putting the border up, also members should ask how many enrolled Nooksack members are enrolled in Canada and you will be surprised it is not only some of the Rabang/Rapadas there are many others that are dually enrolled, so not sure why this is even an issue. Talk about being fired, if you do not conform to what Katherine wants she fires people by way of Tribal police, letters in the mail and phones calls, tells people not to talk to the family and if they do they were reprimanded and fired. If the elections eliminate the ones that make decisions based on your last name do not make it, that will be a day that all Indians can rejoice because it will be one less Tribe to be a part of the genocide to eliminate our race. This council is not thinking of the future repercussions of their actions, only about the here and now. We don't need people like them in leadership rolls. True leaders help and mentor, the actions and goals from this council is tear apart and destroy.
Just to clarify: The 306 are the only ones being hateful. But it doesn't matter how many tires they slash, how many slanderish names they call the "kelly faction", how many threats they make, how many council members-husbands they attack from behind at the Nooksack River casino, how many altercations they start at the Casino, IT STILL DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT NOOKSACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Y'all are funny... We've proven that we are Nooksack with multiple documents. It's just never good enough for them. Not all Nooksacks have land and not all Nooksacks made the census.
"grants were executed properly"? They may have been written and granted properly but do you know what happens to the grants once they're in the hands of the crooked council during the Narz days? Do you know there war numerous complaints of misappropriation during those days? And Narz, lets talk Narz..after all the damage he done to the tribe's finances his last hoorah was to approve a multi million dollar second casino in tim buck two which he knew would't sustain, everybody knew. Oh but all of a sudden the funds come in from funding the new casino and he's a rich man, paid the house off, trips everywhere. It was all misappropriated. Don't try to put blinders on everybody and put a positive legacy on Narz. He had to have been the worst Chairman in our history.
Haha!! Jamesy Rabang: yeah only Real Nooksacks have Land and/or only Real Noosacks made the census!!! Either way you don't meet the criteria. And isn't your Auntie Margretty running her mouth saying you aren't even Sisco's real son... So maybe you are speaking for yourself?
2nd that!!!! He paid himself $100/hour paid his wife $50/hour. We are like Obama cleaning up Bush's mess!!
Only the real Nooksacks have Land and/ or made the 1942 census.
I can't stand Bob kelly I think he is an ass! He is extremely rude! But he has brought our tribe out of the red! Medical bills are paid, clinic is open, passing all audits! And finally the 306 will be disenrolled! We've only been waiting 30 years.
#nooksack
Okay anonymous
Our hearing would consist of calling in to a 1-800 number to the council. The council has not allowed us to sit in front of them to show them our ancestry.
Funny how Northwood is the only casino making any money and how Narz may have been accused but when he was investigated, nothing turned up. Unlike previous chairmen and council members. #keepwaiting#keephating
Marcy uses the same tactics, in 2003 I was at the mice and he did not like what I had to say. He told me to be quiet and that if I did not stop he was going to have me kicked out of the meeting.
For the comment made at 3:30.
And I quote" the same chairman that has the same history as the family he is trying to dis-enroll, but the only differences is that this family does and always Will have nooksack blood running through their veins" unquote
If that is true you have yet to show it. The only reason why you voted the Rabaang manifesto in to office is because he was either a brother,cousin,or uncle, and it wasn't because he was any kind of a nooksack leader of any kind, and if anything he is just a ravaging family leader and that is small real small.
If you were to sit back and look at this from a safe distance. It would become obvious you don't have any nooksack blood and because of your grand ma choices the nooksack blood line bled out. Which in turn leaves one option .
You think,talk your thought process and everything about you is Filipino.
When your family never had the pride of nooksack only the pride of Rabang Nation. Again your grand ma never took the time to reconstruct or re-direct or 're-correct that symbolism, and alowed the completion of the nooksack fate with in your own minds body and soul.
Later on in your posting you claim the ravaging Rabang Famliy manifesto leader bottom line. Okay that's fine" let's talk about it (Nooksacks bottom line ) look around there is no Pont D'avignon to your story.
NARZ and regime defaulted on 56 million dollar loan .
Again if you stood back at a safe distance and take real good look at it NARZ didn't even have you as a family member in consideration at all nor nooksack as a tribe.
You have so many holes in it posting not even you can see .
Leaves you with another choice and this is a way out for you and that is to claim ignorant . You was ignorant to the facts .
There are two components to elections 1) the responsibility to vote 2) because of your responsibility you now claim the responsibility of the person you voted for. And do so mentally and physically. Do you?
Narz was a nightmare. Tribal Construction was always in the red, bled the Tribe. Departments didn't have money, bills weren't being paid, lots of vendors quit doing business with the tribe. narz's business ventures all lost money, the concerts, Robbie Knevil, expanding the River casino. He was clueless.
Okay anonymous
Sounds like anonymous is a cowardly person. Nice leadership skills Bobby. Perhaps you should ask Santa for a real pair balls. Beating woman dosn't count.
There was more then a 1942 census. My family are Clara cheer, joe Louie. From her dad's side. And do you know how or my dad's family. Name them all and remember I am very traditional so bring smoke and pay my electricity. I have a lot more years to live. I'm 41 and I have one son to live my legacy whether he like it or not. He has to choose what he wants. His aunty will give him a chance to take my land if she chooses so. But until then. Let's see what happens. June 23,1995
There was more then a 1942 census. My family are Clara cheer, joe Louie. From her dad's side. And do you know how or my dad's family. Name them all and remember I am very traditional so bring smoke and pay my electricity. I have a lot more years to live. I'm 41 and I have one son to live my legacy whether he like it or not. He has to choose what he wants. His aunty will give him a chance to take my land if she chooses so. But until then. Let's see what happens. June 23,1995
Ha-ha James Rabang. You talk so much like you are someone so proud to be the member of a family that doesn't even want you nor will acknowledge you as a REAL rabang let alone a REAL nooksack. You only speak because you secured a place in the tribe by marrying a chick who banged your entire family before you finally settled with her. I guess that's a good way to stay close to the rabangs. And BTW, I don't really think you should be voicing anything seeing as how you couldn't even tell anyone right away when you murdered your best friend and hid his body in the basement of your own home for days before saying anything. Where was your voice then? Seriously, you sad, insecure, no good jailbird, just keep to yourself.
I have land in nooksack but the pipe line took that away from me. That not the only place that I own. From Vancouver to whatcom county, skagit, swin, James town sklallem and from Oregon in Klamath falls.
I have documents with name and who I am through blood line. My grandma taught me an old traditional way to find of who we are as people. If you are not family. I can't teach you.
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No Rabang bite Bobs ear off... It was done at a party in the early hours because him and someone who's not of the 306 family got into a fight.
At James Rabang: "Narz may have been accused but when he was investigated, nothing turned up." Do you know anything at all? Investigated by who? NIGC? yes I think so…Funny how they are the same ones the 306 want to investigate "illegal disseminations of gaming revenue". Also funny how they were called to investigate how Narz was playing $5 slots all day and night and winning thousands AT LEAST once a week (and I know firsthand). The so called investigation into him having Diantha claim the win to avoid taxes and child support didn't lead anywhere either even though there was clear evidence. (again first hand knowledge). Not NIGC fault there is only one investigator for the whole NW region (5 states). So my advice? Put your hopes of the NIGC finding "illegal dissemination of gaming revenue" elsewhere. The Narz Cunanon regime caused way more irritation with the NIGC than your little cries of illegal dissemination of revenue. Where were ya'll with this illegal dissemination bs when you were all walking out with towers of clamshells of food from the casino taking full advantage of comps from Narz (which is a true violation)? This is just the tip of the iceberg with you all and we are sick of it. Just take, take, take with no regard of anyone else but the Rabang nation. Maybe perhaps put your hopes in proving you are Nooksack. If I recall, the BIA doesn't even believe you. Aren't they the ones that alerted us to the 306 "incomplete" files? Your "proof" should;t be a white man sitting at WWU telling you who you are either. I'll be damned if someone else other than my true lineage is going to be used as "proof" of my identity. You ought one ashamed of yourselves.
That's jus wrong to say things like that about him... He paid His dues behind bars. He didn't get off Scott free. I don't understand what His past has to do with any of this. That's jus a low blow... My niece is Married to him... They both are good people... Jus my opinion
That's jus wrong to say things like that about him... He paid His dues behind bars. He didn't get off Scott free. I don't understand what His past has to do with any of this. That's jus a low blow... My niece is Married to him... They both are good people... Jus my opinion
Yes let's see your proof, has it ever been posted? Shouldn't be that hard right? Being that most of us Native Americans in the U.S. can prove where we we come from. I'm not understanding why if there is real proof, why is this an issue? If there is real proof, can't the BIA determine that sufficient and be done with it? Seems to me maybe there is no proof.
All I have to say is; you all are giving way to much info and they on both side use it to full extent. It is not 305 any more. Sonja passed and then u heard Rollin passed as well. So what is it to. 304.
I seen a save a hoe project on here and that goes to say that they are not nooksack either. All I see is ya all are telling on yourself one way or another. Dalcie Roberts. My one thinking Is to protect me from the way you think. And I am not your cousin. You is just a
Funny how the name "Anonymous" is being used,
We are Anonymous and we have been watching, and we have notice corruption through out the years of Narz Admin. And the Tactics used by the 306, but what he have noticed is the fact that the 306 have been marching on tribal lands. If the 306 wish and "pray" to stay then why are you guys demeaning the tribal council. Do not bit the hand that feeds you. If there is any hard threat on tribal lands anywhere by the 306 we will attack on full force. And examples will be made.The homes of those in Rutsatz, Suchanon, and Five Cedars are exposed and being watched. So tread lightly.
We are Anonymous ,We are everywhere, We are a legion, We do not forget, We will not forgive. And we are watching... Everyone
The current Nooksack Tribal Council is no better!!! Katherine Canete hires her own photography company to do portraits within the tribe, she has not gave back to her tribe & just recently charged $20 per person for a photo shoot & didn't have to pay the rental fee for the community building like every other tribal member has to do! Her twin sister Katrice who is the Housing Director has not had any new developments or any housing improvements since she has been in charge. Its apparent that she does not know what she is doing! Katrice's baby daddy who is enrolled in Upper Skagit tribe & is a convicted felon currently on federal probation which he has been on since he has been released from a federal prison is currently working at the Nooksack Tribe in the Natural Resource Department. The only thing it looks like Katrice knows what to do is have a baby with any guy who will give her the time of day! Katrice your 3 for 3 when it comes to having babies with someone who says they love you! Katherine's brother in law who is also a convicted felon & a non native is also working at the tribe! & lets not forget her sister Lisa Cooper who hasn't passed several drug tests but was let go & re hired within 30 days as a emergency temp in her old position. Last month Katrice attended the NCAI conference which the tribe wasted money on because she has no business going, not only did she go Katherine, her gay husband Niceto, her oldest Dinisio, Lona, her husband Joe Johnson who now wants to be a Nooksack Tribal member because he is married to Lona, Lona's mom Donia, Lona's Step Dad Rick, Lonas sister Rikkole, & Rikkoles mate Dante all attended the NCAI conference & the Nooksack Tribe paid for their hotel & food. While at the NCAI conference they attend the 49ers game when they played the Seahawks & all of this was done with tribal money!! The Rikkole Cree Canoe club has went to national canoe races held in New York & Hawaii & Lona & Katherine used tribal dollars to make these trips happen. Before these 2 were on council they didn't have money to attend gatherings like this so it is obvious they are using tribal money! Donia Edwards who is Lona's mom is the Nooksack Education Director & in the past she worked for the tribe & was managing the Higher Education grant which she misused the funds which led to a audit done by the BIA & they found many misuse of that money & but the Nooksack Tribe on probation because of what Donia did which was paying for her family to go to college which they did not qualify. Not only did Donia misuse the Higher Education grant she was using the Tribal Credit card for personal use & once they found out Donia stopped coming to work & hasn't paid that money to date. But then we hired her back in the Education Department. The only time her family goes back to school is when there is funding & you would think by now her family would have their doctor degree but they haven't even gotten their 2 year degree!! There is a upcoming election & we need to change our council for the better for the people!!! People are being let go off because their UA's came up dirty for marijuana but Lona & Katherines cousin Nathaniel Smith sells marijuana out of tribal housing!! Abbie Smith bugs tribal members for money at the casino & there has been several complaints made against her & she hasn't stopped bothering tribal members for money!
Yes I know, but they never told me in a way through my great grandmother they are my step cousins through marriage. , I am aware of my great grandmother first husbands two brothers and two sisters. Well, I know matsque George of Nooksack, not sure if I am spelling his first name right , but he had a twin daughters, but one past away at birth and she was raised by nunsbecause her mother died Anne George and reunited with her siblings , but later married a man from skway Mr james and never lived in Nooksack area and she had a daughter named Gladys Gladstone and she married frank rabang and ,Gladys sister married a Rapada leaving their children 1/2 NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS.
Yes I know, but they never told me in a way through my great grandmother they are my step cousins through marriage. , I am aware of my great grandmother first husbands two brothers and two sisters. Well, I know matsque George of Nooksack, not sure if I am spelling his first name right , but he had a twin daughters, but one past away at birth and she was raised by nunsbecause her mother died Anne George and reunited with her siblings , but later married a man from skway Mr james and never lived in Nooksack area and she had a daughter named Gladys Gladstone and she married frank rabang and ,Gladys sister married a Rapada leaving their children 1/2 NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS.
This sounds like a disgruntled tribal member. Someone that is extremely miserable with their life. You must really be a loser to be paying close attention to what others are doing. Hmmmmmm sounds like Bernita.. Had a baby with a murderer, is a paid snitch, she was pro 306 back in the day. She steals for a living to fuel her addiction for pills. Get a life and a job
Oh no this sound like Joal she probably stirring her witch pot trying to cast a spell..
All this name calling still doesn't change the fact that you are not Nooksack.
No your niece is a junky that will try to fit into any crowd and do just about anybody that would stick a needle in her thigh or foil in her hand and he is just as desperate, minus the heroin addiction, seeing as how it was only her meth addition that rubbed off on him. Call them what you want, pathetic is all they are. Anyone standing beside them, is only standing up because you are one in the same with your habits.
No your niece is a junky that will try to fit into any crowd and do just about anybody that would stick a needle in her thigh or foil in her hand and he is just as desperate, minus the heroin addiction, seeing as how it was only her meth addition that rubbed off on him. Call them what you want, pathetic is all they are. Anyone standing beside them, is only standing up because you are one in the same with your habits.
Hateful people all around. My daughter lost her job she has moved you go stir your witches pot..witch and leave my family out of it. I don't speak your name or family so don't speak my family name. Get a life nadeen
Hateful people all around. My daughter lost her job she has moved you go stir your witches pot..witch and leave my family out of it. I don't speak your name or family so don't speak my family name. Get a life nadeen
Even if it wasn't her anonymous hiding wouldn't believe the truth of it hit their ugly heart face haha .. Signed Nadeen
Even if it wasn't her anonymous hiding wouldn't believe the truth of it hit their ugly heart face haha .. Signed Nadeen
Wow I don't need to be anonymous. Casting witch spells lol (glad you think so highly of me) looks like a lot of you hit on some ugly truths here and everyones feelings are getting hurt...bummer how the truth hurts so much. btw thanks for the credit but I just found this site today. Loved the read and the laughs. Happy Holidays Nooksacks
As always you take the high road. I love that about you. Again, you are my inspiration thank you your mom
As always you take the high road. I love that about you. Again, you are my inspiration thank you your mom
why do the 306 insist on hating bob kelly? umm the real Nooksacks have been wanting the 306 gone since the 1980's. But due to being threatened by 306 thugs folks were too scared to do anything about it. Bob Kelly is not the ring leader of this disenrollment campain, he is just the figure head. The ancestors have spoken, the real Nooksacks are the people who want the 306 gone. It's pretty pathetic to be so unwanted but keep trying to hang on. Like a jilted lover who can't get the hint, doesnt know how to let go. Move on, get on with your lives.
I'm reading through this blog and there is talk about proof . There's talk about proof on Both sides . 1) side ask for member ship and the other side where I would call side 2) ask for proof on Narz ?
I have a question for James Rabang or any Rabang for that matter .
Being that Narz is either a cousin, brother, uncle . (Hypothetically) When I provide proof of the default loan , proof through court documents. My question is how are you going to fix your relationship with either the tribe or with in your famliy for that matter ?
You ask for proof . Now hypothetical question deserves a hypothetical conversation.
Entertain this question just for a moment and show us your Nooksack .
You know something earlier I ask about taking responsibility as a voter or how responsible it is to vote ? And yet I was ignored .
Much more so Bob Kelly , not the first time that name appeared in the last 90 years.
The first time I read of Bob Kelly, it was a transcript dated 1934 where a, 2nd great uncle was telling a story about Bob Kelly just got out of prison and tyres to run for council and found out he was dis-qualified and would never be able to run for office do to his record . It's just like today Any one with a criminal record can not hold office.
This transcript speaks of the Cooper 's, Roberts, George's , Jimmy 's . And if any of you was to sit down and read this transcript you could see the humor from 2nd great uncle .at the time of this transcript he was well in his 80's.
And you know something every one who was alive knew Annie by her first name .
You claim the ancestors have spoken .
I too think they have spokane too.
O Pechanga , I have 2 questions
Are you taking sides ? I have to ask .
In red you said; Anatomy of dictator, Bob Kelly style . I don't see the Validity . Your short of a conclusion with the start in red.
From there it lead's in to a post on some one facebook page ( no one knows if there nooksack), and that's okay .
And it ends with O Pechanga, everything before that is love and hate .
My second question is? Are you hired by the nooksack tribal government to keep the hate up front?
Oh good the Nooksack 306 found a transcript about Bob Kelly's Nooksack ancestor also named Bob Kelly. I'm glad you dummies have finally realized that Bob Kelly does have Nooksack blood. Bob didnt have his a Nooksack anscestor on the base roll, just like the 306 dont have an anscestor on the base roll. So what do you do when you want to enroll Nooksack and you have Nooksack blood but you ancestor is missing from the base roll? Simple - you ask to be adopted into the tribe because it's the only legal way to become a member when you dont have an ancestor listed om the roll. The 306 should have asked to be adopted into the Nooksack tribe when they first got enrolled in the 1980's since they had no ancestors listed on any tribal roll. Instead they all lied and said they came from Madeline Jobe, who they do not come from! The 306 has always been to greedy and to dishonest and the only person they should be blaming is Rudy St. Germain who caused this whole disenrollment situated. Everone would be happy getting their Christmas checks if Rudy didnt insist on enrollment digging around looking for Indian blood that doesnt exist.
Can the 306 please stop talking about having "Nooksack Blood" that sounds so ignorant. For the millionth time THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR NOOKSACK BLOOD listed on the constitution/enrollment ordinance. If you know how to read, the enrollment ordinance says you must be a direct lineal descendant from someone:
1. who got a Nooksack Homestead, or
2. who is listed on the base roll, or
3. who got the 1965 judgment
Lineal descendants have to also be 1/4 degree Indian blood. FYI that's 1/4 Indian blood from ANY TRIBE so long as you can prove direct lineal descent from someone (1-3)
Stop saying dumb shit like you have "Nooksack blood in your veins" who gives AF, it's not a requirement to be enrolled in the Nooksack tribe.
The governing documents of the Nooksack tribe and the Nooksack Enrollment Application clearly state what evidence is acceptable prove one is entitled to be enrolled in the Nooksack tribe. Again nobody cares if you can show Nooksack ancestry. The issue at hand is ENROLLMENT not ancestry, the 306 can’t seem to grasp the difference between these two separate issues.
Here is the list of the ONLY acceptable evidence to prove you are entitled to MEMBERSHIP IN THE NOOKSACK TRIBE:
1. Birth certificate(s) that show you directly descend from a person who is listed on the 1942 census or that you yourself received the judgment
2. Birth certificate(s) that show you directly descend from a person who received the 1965 judgement or that you yourself received the judgment.
3. Birth certificate(s) that show you directly descend from a person who received a Nooksack allotment if the descendant was living in 1942.
4. A family tree tracing your ancestry back to a person listed (1-4)
5. The only acceptable evidence to prove the ¼ Indian blood requirement is a certificate of Indian Blood issued from an Indian tribal enrollment office. Not a made up family tree where you put down your ancestor is full blood Indian.
So some random probate record that is not even Matsqui George’s probate does not prove a person is entitled for enrollment. Some random census showing “Nooksack” does not prove a person is entitled for enrollment. A historical/anthropological letter from some White Man who states someone has a Nooksack identity does not prove a person is entitled for enrollment.
This is an ongoing problem amongst all races. Yes the same ol yadh yah. If the important persons (ones in question ) may sit along the elders an eat together. Many problems can at the least be understood.
Not to mention some being of a resolve. Take the time to hear. Those who wish to speak be respectful an choose the words in which you present yourself.
Not a single tribe, race nor religion, is thay not written or spoken about.
It looks like everyone is confused about who is Noocksack and who isn't Nooksack. The best part is that there is no one on here claiming that Matsqui George or Annie George are not Noocksack. Just that since she married someone and was living with her husband she no longer counts as a Nooksack, that's just wrong on so many levels. To be disowned by your tribe for getting married? See what I mean about being confused.
WE ARE ANONYMOUS AND AND EXAMPLE HAS BEEN MADE...
WE ARE ANONYMOUS
WE ARE A LEGION
WE DO NOT FORGET
WE DO NOT FORGIVE
AND WE ARE WATCHING... EVERYONE
Matsqui George was a chief from Matsqui. A chief from another Tribe would not claim to be from somewhere else, otherwise he wouldn't be chief. Annie George wasn't Nooksack either. Matsqui Geoege 2nd wife was Nooksack. The 306 are Matsqui and Skway not Nooksack.
The problem is the 306 got caught in a major lie which should be punishable by fine or prison time for lying on their enrollment application. The put on their enrollment application that their Nooksack ancestor was Madeline Jobe. They put on their application that Mastqui George was NOT Nooksack and that he was a Masqui BC First Nation Indian.
No all of a sudden they are changing their story saying Matsqui George is Nooksack. Masqui George is not on the list of approved Nooksack Indians and neither is Annie George and that is why they lied and said their Nooksack ancestor was Madeline Jobe.
The TRUTH is no one is more of a band member than ALL BAND members. Disenrollment is not even in existence before IGRA. Honor ALL elders is the TRUTH. THE BAND AS A WHOLE SHOULD FOLLOW CUSTOM AND TRADITION 4EVER AND ALWAYS
The other post is right! Where are the headlines that say "306 prove membership!"? Pechanga? So obvious that you are one sided but I will wait for the day that you will have this as a headline. For one will never happen, two if the BIA found their "proof" sufficient, this article wouldn't even be here right now. So sick of your bias posts in favor of the 306. You either belong or you don't, that's how it is in Indian Country. You wouldn't allow foreign people into your tribe would you? To come over and take over your tribe, cause chaos to the extreme and expect us to just lay down and take it? We're just trying to correct a wrong. Bob Kelly and his so called faction whatever are brave enough to stand up to what's rightfully ours! This has been a long standing issue since the 80's not like it was just made up to destroy a people. We are still here! Nooksack people will prevail stronger than ever. Skway people, go back to your homeland and be a strong tribe over there! Leave us be.
This guy even looks like a prick. He must be powerful in his prickdom.
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